Quote: I suspect the Canon 6D served notice on high-end APS-C equipment a couple of years ago. The reason is that high-end APS-C bodies have come down in price as a consequence. Were it not for cameras like the 6D, the D600 and the A7, cameras like the K3 or the D7100 would be priced more highly than they are now. A further ratchet an be applied, perhaps by Sony dropping the price of the A7 when new models are introduced, or simply introducing an A7 Lite, or Canon selling the 6D at a discount for a while after its successor is launched.
Before I pre-ordered my K-3, I stopped in at the local camera store handled a D600, checked lout the specs and tests on both the 6D and D600, and came to the conclusion that even though I could get refurb D600's and 6Ds for the same money, I was better off with a K-3, The 6D can't match the K-3 in absolute resolution, and the D600 is only marginally better. And the fast 85 on the D600 while impressive, was not a better performer than my K-3.
Here's the thing I would really like from FF advocates, stop focussing on FF taking away APS-c users. That is not going to happen. One of my friends bought a D3200 and 18-250 for less than $700. There an FF would have to have a 24 to 400 on it to match the FoV. Not going to happen, never going to match the price.
You can speculate about high end users, but I've actually done the research and the math. I doubt that the 6D has converted more than a couple high end APS-c shooters. The value just isn't there.
There's a guy on the forum who has figured out exactly the parameters that would make FF attractive to a budget conscious user. Cheap body (6D or D600) Cheap fast lenses, usually second hand, lenses less than 60mm.
Most people who have invested in FF systems, many have kept their APS-c stuff. Many shoot a lot less FF than APS-c. Based on the experience of forum users, my guess is you should plan on keeping both systems, there have been some rather heart breaking posts from new FF users who didn't understand what they were losing when they sold their high end APS-c gear to purchase an FF system. Once it's gone, you'll know though.
As far as i can tell, there are two types of FF users, pros, who want a more distinctive look and are willing to pay the big bucks to get it as well as the little bit of extra low light performance, and people with lot's of money, who just want to believe they have the best, and who don't seem to realize, there is no "best", all their is is "best for what I'm doing right now", and that in going from APS-c to FF you're giving up "best in one situation" for best in "something else". (And one guy who says it's cheaper.)
When I see threads like this I truly expect to see discussions of FF's DoF and versatility, for possible use as a one format system for a specific type of shooter. Instead it's the same old speculation over and over again, with the success of FF depending on the demise of APS-c etc. all of which is nonsense.
When talking about the possibility of increasing FF sales, the big questions is, are there going to be more shooters who appreciate the technical merits of what FF has to offer, and don't care about what APS-c has to offer. My question for you would be "why would that happen?"
Or to be more precise "Why would there be an aesthetic shift in the population favouring that style of image that FF excels at." Don't be asumming that everybody wants it. Most people don't, except maybe for their wedding pictures.
Most of the stuff posted in this forum on this topic is marketing hype, designed to convince people they need something they don't, and suggesting they give up features they've come to rely on, to get it.
Last edited by normhead; 07-02-2014 at 02:17 PM.