Poll to gauge how many members would buy a FF Pentax

**EssJayEff** · 09-17-2014, 05:08 AM

Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead!

micromacro · 09-17-2014, 05:25 AM

#7, #11, #12 and #14- focus confirmation for manual lenses. That's all, and I'm sold. At least I will not feel pain to spend such an amount like for Canon FF with hitting mirror issue, or for Nikon FF with older era lenses limitation.
All what matters for me is going instead of 1.6 or 1.5 crop to 100% for 35mm lenses. 25% is 25%. Period. Yeah, I read all arguments and debates... Sorry it's my money, and have my right to waste it how I want.

If there is no FF, I will end up with K5iis and Canon 6D duo eventually. I hope.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-17-2014, 05:51 AM

No interest in 41 megapixel.

Sandy Hancock · 09-17-2014, 05:53 AM

24 would be plenty.
Man, that D750 is tempting....

Robert_1 · 09-17-2014, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by noser

Ricoh will be on it's rump. Pentax on it's forehead...

EDIT: Will the horn be a FF horn? Of course! Maybe Pentax ON the horn. Like the front of the prism...

---------- Post added 09-16-2014 at 09:13 PM ----------

Google Xlate:

For Pentax must destroy me. Nikon is .

Maybe:

"Pentax will be the death of me. Nikon is [negate] > 'will not'" ?

I'm latin. Your google translator is lacking. the sentence really means: For me Pentax is completly destroyed. Nikon est (in latin it can have a full meaning when previously understood as in: For me Nikon is it now. I was using your word

elenda: destroyed, anihilated. But in reality I should use Death (Mortis):but as in not longer exist= defunctio.

Nam me Pentaxo defunctio est. Nikon est. For me Pentax is dead. Nikon is now.

rangercarp · 09-17-2014, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by wullemaha

Getting rid of dedicated mechanical buttons for touchscreen? No better way to make sure I will never buy the camera...

---------- Post added 2014-09-17 at 16:10 ----------

I agree. WE don't need a KS-FF1. Pentax has a great user interface in the current lineup. Keep it similar if not identical.

And SR is a must. If they cannot make SR work in a FF we lose one of our biggest advantages. IBSR was the main reason I chose Pentax in the first place.

**DAKS** · 09-17-2014, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by EssJayEff

Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead!

I feel the same way as EssJayEff. I'd have to look at the price and comparison with the 645Z.
If I decide to go with a larger format than the K-3, the price and IQ would have to be right.

David

**monochrome** · 09-17-2014, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by noser

Google Xlate:

For Pentax must destroy me. Nikon is .

Maybe:

"Pentax will be the death of me. Nikon is [negate] > 'will not'" ?

Pentaxo non delenda est. >> Pentax must not be destroyed >> or 'Pentax Is Not Doomed'

Carthago delenda est, modernization of >> Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam >> Carthage must be destroyed. - Cato the Elder

Further flogging the reference, Pentax, like Carthage, has the vexing character (just when CaNikon thinks it is finally destroyed) to surprise with a sublime Masterpiece such as Super-Takumar 50/1.4, SMC coatings, SMC 1:1.8/85, MX, LX, A*200/4 Macro, F*300/4.5, A*85/1.4, and others.

So my poor analogy suggests the coming FF might be, rather than an also-ran from a benighted, failing company, a surprise Masterpiece, something sublime - a true Unicorn!!

Pentaxo non delenda est. Surprise!

*Let's just hope there's no Scipio Aemilianus

easyreeder · 09-17-2014, 09:51 AM

Kind of weird poll though. No time frame and the expectations on the specs change fairly quickly. At this point, for example, an ff K3 isn't good enough.

Winder · 09-17-2014, 10:51 AM - **1 Like**

If the question was asked 2 years ago. I would have ordered without question. Right now I'm interested in what Sony is doing with the A7 line and how Fuji's x-mount is going to evolve. Unlike the Pentax FF, the Sony A7 and Fuji X are not vaporware. The Nikon D750 is the most interesting DSLR on the market for my needs, but do I want to invest in dinosaur technology at this point?

Stavri · 09-17-2014, 11:03 AM - **1 Like**

What is this nonsense about a Pentax FF sensor in the 24-41 MP range, the best FF cameras available: Canon 1Dx has 17.3, and Nikon D4S has 16.2. Be sensible people!!!, A Pentax FF in the 16-24 mp is more reasonable

easyreeder · 09-17-2014, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Winder

If the question was asked 2 years ago. I would have ordered without question. Right now I'm interested in what Sony is doing with the A7 line and how Fuji's x-mount is going to evolve. Unlike the Pentax FF, the Sony A7 and Fuji X are not vaporware. The Nikon D750 is the most interesting DSLR on the market for my needs, but do I want to invest in dinosaur technology at this point?

Yes, we've already seen commitment in Sony and Fuji, and we're seeing evolved iterations of the technology. I think it's fair to say that an FF Pentax is enormously appealing, but that product will now exist in a more competitive market; as buyers, people will want to see commitment to the lenses, and a convincing set of specifications. Pentax must know that tho, huh? Nervous giggle.

MarkJerling · 09-17-2014, 01:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jyrkira

It does not matter which brand it is. All that matters is it a k-mount camera.

I agree!

---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:17 AM ----------

Originally posted by EssJayEff

Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead!

Good point.

---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:19 AM ----------

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

24 would be plenty.
Man, that D750 is tempting....

Very!

---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:21 AM ----------

Originally posted by easyreeder

Kind of weird poll though. No time frame and the expectations on the specs change fairly quickly. At this point, for example, an ff K3 isn't good enough.

I've deliberately left it open, but can, of course, update the specs if need be.

**todd** · 09-17-2014, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Man, that D750 is tempting....

So true.

MarkJerling · 09-17-2014, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Stavri

What is this nonsense about a Pentax FF sensor in the 24-41 MP range, the best FF cameras available: Canon 1Dx has 17.3, and Nikon D4S has 16.2. Be sensible people!!!, A Pentax FF in the 16-24 mp is more reasonable

On the one hand I'm criticised for specs being too old, on the other hand, for specs being too progressive, seems I can't win.

---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:35 AM ----------

This far, the results are proving interesting:
As of this moment, 69% of respondents would like a Full Frame camera from Ricoh. 17% have no interest in a FF product. The view is divided 50/50 between those who would like it to have the Pentax logo only and those who don't care if it reads Pentax, Ricoh or both. Specification is of less importance, as is price.

View Poll Results: Will you buy a FF Pentax, if one was available?
Yes, if it is a Pentax branded camera.	79	18.20%
Yes, if it is a Pentax and/or Ricoh branded camera.	100	23.04%
Yes, if it had the sort of specs you mention.	60	13.82%
Yes, but only if it's priced no higher than, for instance, the D750.	57	13.13%
No, I've bought a FF made by a different supplier.	17	3.92%
No, I don't need or want FF.	83	19.12%
No - I would like to, but I cannot afford to buy a new camera.	27	6.22%
Yes, but only if it's available in forty-seven color combinations.	11	2.53%
Voters: 434. You may not vote on this poll

09-17-2014, 06:22 AM	#35
Robert_1 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 73	Originally posted by noser Ricoh will be on it's rump. Pentax on it's forehead... EDIT: Will the horn be a FF horn? Of course! Maybe Pentax ON the horn. Like the front of the prism... ---------- Post added 09-16-2014 at 09:13 PM ---------- Google Xlate: For Pentax must destroy me. Nikon is . Maybe: "Pentax will be the death of me. Nikon is [negate] > 'will not'" ? I'm latin. Your google translator is lacking. the sentence really means: For me Pentax is completly destroyed. Nikon est (in latin it can have a full meaning when previously understood as in: For me Nikon is it now. I was using your wordelenda: destroyed, anihilated. But in reality I should use Death (Mortis):but as in not longer exist= defunctio. Nam me Pentaxo defunctio est. Nikon est. For me Pentax is dead. Nikon is now.

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09-17-2014, 05:08 AM	#31
EssJayEff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: near Saxapahaw, NC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 969	Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead!

09-17-2014, 05:25 AM	#32
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	#7, #11, #12 and #14- focus confirmation for manual lenses. That's all, and I'm sold. At least I will not feel pain to spend such an amount like for Canon FF with hitting mirror issue, or for Nikon FF with older era lenses limitation. All what matters for me is going instead of 1.6 or 1.5 crop to 100% for 35mm lenses. 25% is 25%. Period. Yeah, I read all arguments and debates... Sorry it's my money, and have my right to waste it how I want. If there is no FF, I will end up with K5iis and Canon 6D duo eventually. I hope.

09-17-2014, 05:51 AM	#33
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	No interest in 41 megapixel.

09-17-2014, 05:53 AM	#34
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	24 would be plenty. Man, that D750 is tempting....

09-17-2014, 06:28 AM	#36
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	Originally posted by wullemaha Getting rid of dedicated mechanical buttons for touchscreen? No better way to make sure I will never buy the camera... ---------- Post added 2014-09-17 at 16:10 ---------- I agree. WE don't need a KS-FF1. Pentax has a great user interface in the current lineup. Keep it similar if not identical. And SR is a must. If they cannot make SR work in a FF we lose one of our biggest advantages. IBSR was the main reason I chose Pentax in the first place.

09-17-2014, 06:30 AM	#37
DAKS Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: McLean, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 97	Originally posted by EssJayEff Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead! I feel the same way as EssJayEff. I'd have to look at the price and comparison with the 645Z. If I decide to go with a larger format than the K-3, the price and IQ would have to be right. David

09-17-2014, 08:49 AM	#38
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by noser Google Xlate: For Pentax must destroy me. Nikon is . Maybe: "Pentax will be the death of me. Nikon is [negate] > 'will not'" ? Pentaxo non delenda est. >> Pentax must not be destroyed >> or 'Pentax Is Not Doomed' Carthago delenda est, modernization of >> Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam >> Carthage must be destroyed. - Cato the Elder Further flogging the reference, Pentax, like Carthage, has the vexing character (just when CaNikon thinks it is finally destroyed) to surprise with a sublime Masterpiece such as Super-Takumar 50/1.4, SMC coatings, SMC 1:1.8/85, MX, LX, A200/4 Macro, F300/4.5, A85/1.4, and others. So my poor analogy suggests the coming FF might be, rather than an also-ran from a benighted, failing company, a surprise Masterpiece, something sublime - a true Unicorn!! Pentaxo non delenda est. Surprise!* *Let's just hope there's no Scipio Aemilianus

09-17-2014, 09:51 AM	#39
easyreeder Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 128	Kind of weird poll though. No time frame and the expectations on the specs change fairly quickly. At this point, for example, an ff K3 isn't good enough.

09-17-2014, 10:51 AM - 1 Like	#40
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	If the question was asked 2 years ago. I would have ordered without question. Right now I'm interested in what Sony is doing with the A7 line and how Fuji's x-mount is going to evolve. Unlike the Pentax FF, the Sony A7 and Fuji X are not vaporware. The Nikon D750 is the most interesting DSLR on the market for my needs, but do I want to invest in dinosaur technology at this point?

09-17-2014, 11:03 AM - 1 Like	#41
Stavri Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: at a Bean & Leaf Photos: Albums Posts: 1,832	What is this nonsense about a Pentax FF sensor in the 24-41 MP range, the best FF cameras available: Canon 1Dx has 17.3, and Nikon D4S has 16.2. Be sensible people!!!, A Pentax FF in the 16-24 mp is more reasonable

09-17-2014, 11:05 AM	#42
easyreeder Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 128	Originally posted by Winder If the question was asked 2 years ago. I would have ordered without question. Right now I'm interested in what Sony is doing with the A7 line and how Fuji's x-mount is going to evolve. Unlike the Pentax FF, the Sony A7 and Fuji X are not vaporware. The Nikon D750 is the most interesting DSLR on the market for my needs, but do I want to invest in dinosaur technology at this point? Yes, we've already seen commitment in Sony and Fuji, and we're seeing evolved iterations of the technology. I think it's fair to say that an FF Pentax is enormously appealing, but that product will now exist in a more competitive market; as buyers, people will want to see commitment to the lenses, and a convincing set of specifications. Pentax must know that tho, huh? Nervous giggle.

09-17-2014, 01:16 PM - 1 Like	#43
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406 Original Poster	Originally posted by Jyrkira It does not matter which brand it is. All that matters is it a k-mount camera. I agree! ---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:17 AM ---------- Originally posted by EssJayEff Tough for me to answer this poll because I am awaiting a (hopefully as described) like-new (with a few hundred shutter actuations) 645D with the Pentax-D FA 55mm and FA 75mm lenses. I paid four grand for that outfit, and that was a stretch. So the question for me would be, beyond cost, would be "Will I get better image quality from the FF or the 645D? If the FF, then I may stretch again to buy a used 645Z instead! Good point. ---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:19 AM ---------- Originally posted by Sandy Hancock 24 would be plenty. Man, that D750 is tempting.... Very! ---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:21 AM ---------- Originally posted by easyreeder Kind of weird poll though. No time frame and the expectations on the specs change fairly quickly. At this point, for example, an ff K3 isn't good enough. I've deliberately left it open, but can, of course, update the specs if need be.

09-17-2014, 01:25 PM	#44
todd Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,794	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Man, that D750 is tempting.... So true.

09-17-2014, 01:25 PM	#45
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406 Original Poster	Originally posted by Stavri What is this nonsense about a Pentax FF sensor in the 24-41 MP range, the best FF cameras available: Canon 1Dx has 17.3, and Nikon D4S has 16.2. Be sensible people!!!, A Pentax FF in the 16-24 mp is more reasonable On the one hand I'm criticised for specs being too old, on the other hand, for specs being too progressive, seems I can't win. ---------- Post added 09-18-14 at 08:35 AM ---------- This far, the results are proving interesting: As of this moment, 69% of respondents would like a Full Frame camera from Ricoh. 17% have no interest in a FF product. The view is divided 50/50 between those who would like it to have the Pentax logo only and those who don't care if it reads Pentax, Ricoh or both. Specification is of less importance, as is price.