Originally posted by Poit You omit the part-time professional photographers, who actually need a 24x36 sensor, and for whom cost vs quality is an even bigger consideration than the full timers.
You omit all the future professionals. The teens who have got a taste for it through their smart phone and are considering exploring the profession.
And you omit the fact that 'most of us aren't full time professionals' because, well, the brand doesn't attract most full time (or even part time) professionals. You have actually confirmed the major deficiency in the brand's offering yourself....professionals don't use Pentax (the 645z has hopefully started to change that).
I can understand why, as an enthusiast, you are more than happy and just want the whingers to 'go away and leave us alone'.
As a part-time professional, I post my thoughts here in the (probably misguided) hope that someone from Ricoh/Pentax will see and understand what the professional segment of the market needs. And more importantly, that they don't currently serve that need very well.
I think the market response to the 645z demonstrates very well that the professional market is not to be sneezed at or dismissed, that there is good money to be made in a well-produced FF, that professionals will buy Pentax if they get it right, and I believe that Ricoh may be coming to the same realisation (finally)...
Count me in the part time pro group. In fact, count me in to the same situation as yourself almost 100%
I didn't buy into Pentax to become a pro; I bought in as an enthusiastic amateur and really liked it. The pro aspect came later, and now I feel I'm stuck - it seems such a waste to throw away all that gear to start again. I guess if I got 50-70% on it I might get one nice lens from another mount for it all, since most of it is so old.
I'm still strongly considering the 645Z; aside from framerate and the typically poor Pentax video mode it's actually excellent as an all-round shooter.
But I have only 3 non-AF 645 lenses. I have 10x more K mount lenses, most of which are FF.
Maybe Pentax reads this forum; maybe they don't.
I'd like to think they have a room of interns, each who is a native speaker of a different language, who read and report from all the online forums. But they all report to a manager that doesn't go to meetings, so no one else at Pentax ever hears what the rest of the world/market wants.
So we only get 'upgrades' when they put a Miffy decal on last years body.
But I do think FF is very soon to come, based on the new lenses and company comments. What I suspect though is it may not be a D750 competitor. And it may not be a Leica competitor.
So if those two exist on a single continuum (and that may be a wrong assumption) where the Leica is on the far left, as a one-shot-uber-expensive-let-make-some-art body, and the D750 is pretty far away on the right side ( almost where the 1D and D4's live ), which are more in the monster-feature-do-anything-for-anyone cameras, where does Pentax fit?
Is there an entire dimension to the graph I'm ignoring? It sounded like in the interview the CEO really, really, really cared about making terrific images... so more to the left?