Pentax Full Frame confirmed at Salon de photo (Paris)

**jatrax** · 11-20-2014, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread?

Never too early. We can always talk about cheese..............

redcat · 11-20-2014, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread?

because it has 8,000 different colors ? =))

Franc · 11-20-2014, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Must be country specific then?

Sony A7: 1299 euros
Pentax K-3: 1211 euros

As soon as the A7II is releaded FF will be cheaper then Pentax APS-C around here.

then your shopping at the wrong shop. Here (NL) you can get it (K3) for €999 and lower

redcat · 11-20-2014, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Franc

Originally posted by Clavius Quote Must be country specific then? Sony A7: 1299 euros Pentax K-3: 1211 euros As soon as the A7II is releaded FF will be cheaper then Pentax APS-C around here. then your shopping at the wrong shop. Here (NL) you can get it (K3) for €999 and lower

EUR 892,91 on amazon.fr

LFLee · 11-20-2014, 09:29 AM

Pentax FF already here, SONY A7II.

OK, old jokes.

or, the rumor of "Pro A7II", with A7II stabilization + A6000 AF speed + A7R resolution + K3 weather seal, the SONY A9

tvdtvdtvd · 11-20-2014, 09:45 AM

Didn't we get a "FF is coming" rumor from the French during Photokina? With no other 'official' confirmation?
Don't bank on it until 'official' comes from an 'official' source through an 'official' channel.

As for badging, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Ricoh's name is on the back...., or even on the front.
I don't see the word "Pentax" anywhere in that booth shot. Ricoh is steadily moving the name Pentax to
the margins; it's just a matter of time before they drop it. And sad as that may be, at least it won't be
changing to 'Sony'.

disconnekt · 11-20-2014, 10:32 AM - **1 Like**

"Rumors" and "They said it's Official!!" isn't really gonna get people that excited about a Pentax FF, especially with all the rumors that have come out like the last 10 years.
Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website.

redcat · 11-20-2014, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by disconnekt

Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website.

I'm betting on my lens, if they don't release a FF in 2015, I'll sell them all =))

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

Ricoh is steadily moving the name Pentax to the margins; it's just a matter of time before they drop it

I guess it's just the matter of time

infoomatic · 11-20-2014, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by disconnekt

"Rumors" and "They said it's Official!!" isn't really gonna get people that excited about a Pentax FF, especially with all the rumors that have come out like the last 10 years.
Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website.

exactly. I think a Pentax FF has been confirmed for 5 years now ... but always by representatives or by some mysterious insiders. I don't believe it until we see an official statement, e.g. press release or something. A facebook comment by some french rep. is no official statement, probably similar wishful thinking than mine. Working in a technology company in the dev team I know that a statement of officials "we are working on FF" as in the interviews means exactly NOTHING.
For me I am going Sony A7-II because this is real ;-)

FantasticMrFox · 11-20-2014, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Must be country specific then?

Originally posted by normhead

That's just sad. K-3s are under 900 Canadian around here ...

I don't know what's wrong with the Netherlands, but Amazon Germany sells the K3 + 18-55 kit for about €950, Amazon UK has it for £829 and Amazon France offers it for around €960

The Dutch shop you cited sells it for more than €1,200 body only, that's just retarded! And the Sony A7 is an exception, it makes more sense to compare a DSLR FF to similar cameras like the Nikon D610/750/810 and Canon 6D/5D Mark III etc.

LFLee · 11-20-2014, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by infoomatic

exactly. I think a Pentax FF has been confirmed for 5 years now ... but always by representatives or by some mysterious insiders. I don't believe it until we see an official statement, e.g. press release or something. A facebook comment by some french rep. is no official statement, probably similar wishful thinking than mine. Working in a technology company in the dev team I know that a statement of officials "we are working on FF" as in the interviews means exactly NOTHING.
For me I am going Sony A7-II because this is real ;-)

yeah... the A7 is already in 2nd generation and yet the PENTAX FF is still in rumor phase.

Looks like the A7 series is going to stay and the rumor of A9 is going to be true as well.

MikeD · 11-20-2014, 12:00 PM

I'm still hoping for K3 upgrade. I don't understand why they would prostitute their APS C market for a FF, they really shouldn't need to. I really don't need the FF and my two best lenses the DA* 60-250 4.0 and Tamron 17-50 2.8 are APS-C. If however they only come out with the FF then used K3s ought to be really cheap. So I'm sticking with my K5 until the dust settles.

MarkJerling · 11-20-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread?

I thought there was one already? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/273886-introducing-...-dont-buy.html

normhead · 11-20-2014, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread?

I already did it a couple times. I think until there is a Pentax FF to not buy, no one cares. Or to be more prices, no one cares if you say you won't, if you can't.

redcat · 11-20-2014, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by normhead

if you say you won't, if you can't.

yeah, sometimes people say they don't like just because they can't have it

sad but true !

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11-20-2014, 09:07 AM	#16
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by johnmflores Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread? Never too early. We can always talk about cheese..............

11-20-2014, 09:08 AM	#17
redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread? because it has 8,000 different colors ? =))

11-20-2014, 09:09 AM	#18
Franc Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoevelaken Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,212	Originally posted by Clavius Must be country specific then? Sony A7: 1299 euros Pentax K-3: 1211 euros As soon as the A7II is releaded FF will be cheaper then Pentax APS-C around here. then your shopping at the wrong shop. Here (NL) you can get it (K3) for €999 and lower

11-20-2014, 09:13 AM	#19
redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939 Original Poster	Originally posted by Franc Originally posted by Clavius Quote Must be country specific then? Sony A7: 1299 euros Pentax K-3: 1211 euros As soon as the A7II is releaded FF will be cheaper then Pentax APS-C around here. then your shopping at the wrong shop. Here (NL) you can get it (K3) for €999 and lower EUR 892,91 on amazon.fr

11-20-2014, 09:29 AM	#20
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Pentax FF already here, SONY A7II. OK, old jokes. or, the rumor of "Pro A7II", with A7II stabilization + A6000 AF speed + A7R resolution + K3 weather seal, the SONY A9

11-20-2014, 09:45 AM	#21
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Didn't we get a "FF is coming" rumor from the French during Photokina? With no other 'official' confirmation? Don't bank on it until 'official' comes from an 'official' source through an 'official' channel. As for badging, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Ricoh's name is on the back...., or even on the front. I don't see the word "Pentax" anywhere in that booth shot. Ricoh is steadily moving the name Pentax to the margins; it's just a matter of time before they drop it. And sad as that may be, at least it won't be changing to 'Sony'.

11-20-2014, 10:32 AM - 1 Like	#22
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,699	"Rumors" and "They said it's Official!!" isn't really gonna get people that excited about a Pentax FF, especially with all the rumors that have come out like the last 10 years. Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website.

11-20-2014, 10:46 AM	#23
redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939 Original Poster	Originally posted by disconnekt Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website. I'm betting on my lens, if they don't release a FF in 2015, I'll sell them all =)) Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd Ricoh is steadily moving the name Pentax to the margins; it's just a matter of time before they drop it I guess it's just the matter of time

11-20-2014, 11:50 AM	#24
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	Originally posted by disconnekt "Rumors" and "They said it's Official!!" isn't really gonna get people that excited about a Pentax FF, especially with all the rumors that have come out like the last 10 years. Not untill Pentax itself releases an official "Hey! Guess what we have? A FF camera! Here's the specs!" statement on their website. exactly. I think a Pentax FF has been confirmed for 5 years now ... but always by representatives or by some mysterious insiders. I don't believe it until we see an official statement, e.g. press release or something. A facebook comment by some french rep. is no official statement, probably similar wishful thinking than mine. Working in a technology company in the dev team I know that a statement of officials "we are working on FF" as in the interviews means exactly NOTHING. For me I am going Sony A7-II because this is real ;-)

11-20-2014, 11:52 AM	#25
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by Clavius Must be country specific then? Originally posted by normhead That's just sad. K-3s are under 900 Canadian around here ... I don't know what's wrong with the Netherlands, but Amazon Germany sells the K3 + 18-55 kit for about €950, Amazon UK has it for £829 and Amazon France offers it for around €960 The Dutch shop you cited sells it for more than €1,200 body only, that's just retarded! And the Sony A7 is an exception, it makes more sense to compare a DSLR FF to similar cameras like the Nikon D610/750/810 and Canon 6D/5D Mark III etc.

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11-20-2014, 11:58 AM	#26
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by infoomatic exactly. I think a Pentax FF has been confirmed for 5 years now ... but always by representatives or by some mysterious insiders. I don't believe it until we see an official statement, e.g. press release or something. A facebook comment by some french rep. is no official statement, probably similar wishful thinking than mine. Working in a technology company in the dev team I know that a statement of officials "we are working on FF" as in the interviews means exactly NOTHING. For me I am going Sony A7-II because this is real ;-) yeah... the A7 is already in 2nd generation and yet the PENTAX FF is still in rumor phase. Looks like the A7 series is going to stay and the rumor of A9 is going to be true as well.

11-20-2014, 12:00 PM	#27
MikeD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: traverse city MI Posts: 346	I'm still hoping for K3 upgrade. I don't understand why they would prostitute their APS C market for a FF, they really shouldn't need to. I really don't need the FF and my two best lenses the DA* 60-250 4.0 and Tamron 17-50 2.8 are APS-C. If however they only come out with the FF then used K3s ought to be really cheap. So I'm sticking with my K5 until the dust settles.

11-20-2014, 12:02 PM	#28
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,404	Originally posted by johnmflores Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread? I thought there was one already? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/273886-introducing-...-dont-buy.html

11-20-2014, 12:13 PM	#29
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by johnmflores Is it too early to start a "Why I won't buy a Pentax FF" thread? I already did it a couple times. I think until there is a Pentax FF to not buy, no one cares. Or to be more prices, no one cares if you say you won't, if you can't.

11-20-2014, 01:52 PM	#30
redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead if you say you won't, if you can't. yeah, sometimes people say they don't like just because they can't have it sad but true !