Poll - Preferred Future FF Kit Lens?

Kunzite · 12-11-2014, 07:50 AM

No idea. I don't think I would simply scale up the focal lengths I like on APS-C, more likely I'll try and see what works better on the new format.
Probably I'll want to start with something like a 35-43mm (relatively) compact lens, perhaps some sort of a WR DC Limited.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-11-2014, 08:07 AM

I would bring a new HD AW 43mm/f1.9 out to go with the new FF camera.

Kunzite · 12-11-2014, 08:13 AM

Make two, I would buy one of them

aurele · 12-11-2014, 10:39 AM

My bet is that Pentax will come out with a 28-80 3.5-4.5. And offer HD AW 20-35/4 , 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8, with a premium price for this AW.

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I would bring a new HD AW 43mm/f1.9 out to go with the new FF camera.

i think that they should do it for every FA ltd. Bring back / enhanced some mythical lenses (24/2 -135/2.5 - 200/2.5 bring them in f2 just to showcase some p0rn to other user brand).

I think Rioch will aim new user with it, not us, the already equipped in K/M/A lenses.

infoomatic · 12-11-2014, 11:17 AM

kitlens: 50mm f/1.4. Since I own a couple of them I don't need a kitlens ... just a kit-cam ;-) I am already counting days when I place my order, the question is just whether sony or ricoh will receive my money.

**RKKS08** · 12-11-2014, 12:56 PM

I agree with Joshua.

When Pentax introduced the Super A and the cheaper Program A and A3 in Germany, only the Super A was bundled with either the SMC Pentax-A 1.4/50 or the legendary SMC Pentax-A 3.5-4.5/28-80 (12/8 elements, in my opinion, still the best lens made in that range).

Wheras the Program A and the A3 where sold bundled with either the SMC Pentax-A 2.0/50 or the Pentax-A 3.5-4.5/28-80 (8/8 elements, standard coating, a rather average lens, also branded as Takumar-A and Profile-A, the latter made by the Taiwanese Asahi subsidiary Cosmicar).

EDIT
By the way, I remember that German photo magazines called the introduction of the SuperA a sensation - because Pentax was able to go on using the K mount and offering full compatibility with the K and M lenses.

I am not sure whether it is true, but they said the the competition was not able to continue with their previous mounts, as only the K-mount had used a travel of the aperture lever long enough to enable precise closing with shutter priority and P modes. Minolta, Canon, (and Nikon?/Olympus?) had to create new couplings without full compatibility to the old ones.

nass_43 · 12-12-2014, 03:32 AM

I already have a FA 20-35 as my "standard" lens on film camera, so I would clearly like a 24-105 f/4 kit lens to go with it !
FA prime lenses are, then, nice additions to this kit lens.
Even for beginners, it covers most of the basic needs, and a constant aperture of f/4 is enough.

Sure, f/2.8 high quality FA* zooms would be nice, but better placed as additional lenses rather than kit lens. Or maybe for "premium" kits ?

View Poll Results: FF Kit Lens, what do you want?
HD Pentax-D FA* 24-50mm f2.8 ED [IF] DC AW (Internal Zoom)	8	14.81%
HD Pentax-D FA 24-105mm f4 ED [IF] DC WR	21	38.89%
HD Pentax-D FA* 35-105mm f3.5 ED [IF] DC AW (Internal Zoom)	3	5.56%
HD Pentax-D FA 24(28)-135mm f3.5-4.5 ED DC WR	0	0%
HD Pentax-D FA 24(28)-200mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR	0	0%
HD Pentax-D FA 28mm f1.8 ED [IF] DC WR	2	3.70%
HD Pentax-D FA 35mm f1.8 ED [IF] DC WR	0	0%
HD Pentax-D FA 50mm f1.8 ED [IF] DC WR	8	14.81%
HD Pentax Limited Lens WR	4	7.41%
Other (Please Elaborate)	8	14.81%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

12-11-2014, 12:56 PM	#21
RKKS08 Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,241	I agree with Joshua. When Pentax introduced the Super A and the cheaper Program A and A3 in Germany, only the Super A was bundled with either the SMC Pentax-A 1.4/50 or the legendary SMC Pentax-A 3.5-4.5/28-80 (12/8 elements, in my opinion, still the best lens made in that range). Wheras the Program A and the A3 where sold bundled with either the SMC Pentax-A 2.0/50 or the Pentax-A 3.5-4.5/28-80 (8/8 elements, standard coating, a rather average lens, also branded as Takumar-A and Profile-A, the latter made by the Taiwanese Asahi subsidiary Cosmicar). EDIT By the way, I remember that German photo magazines called the introduction of the SuperA a sensation - because Pentax was able to go on using the K mount and offering full compatibility with the K and M lenses. I am not sure whether it is true, but they said the the competition was not able to continue with their previous mounts, as only the K-mount had used a travel of the aperture lever long enough to enable precise closing with shutter priority and P modes. Minolta, Canon, (and Nikon?/Olympus?) had to create new couplings without full compatibility to the old ones. Last edited by RKKS08; 12-11-2014 at 01:10 PM.

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12-11-2014, 07:50 AM	#16
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	No idea. I don't think I would simply scale up the focal lengths I like on APS-C, more likely I'll try and see what works better on the new format. Probably I'll want to start with something like a 35-43mm (relatively) compact lens, perhaps some sort of a WR DC Limited.

12-11-2014, 08:07 AM	#17
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I would bring a new HD AW 43mm/f1.9 out to go with the new FF camera.

12-11-2014, 08:13 AM	#18
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Make two, I would buy one of them

12-11-2014, 10:39 AM	#19
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	My bet is that Pentax will come out with a 28-80 3.5-4.5. And offer HD AW 20-35/4 , 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8, with a premium price for this AW. Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I would bring a new HD AW 43mm/f1.9 out to go with the new FF camera. i think that they should do it for every FA ltd. Bring back / enhanced some mythical lenses (24/2 -135/2.5 - 200/2.5 bring them in f2 just to showcase some p0rn to other user brand). I think Rioch will aim new user with it, not us, the already equipped in K/M/A lenses.

12-11-2014, 11:17 AM	#20
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	kitlens: 50mm f/1.4. Since I own a couple of them I don't need a kitlens ... just a kit-cam ;-) I am already counting days when I place my order, the question is just whether sony or ricoh will receive my money.

12-12-2014, 03:32 AM	#22
nass_43 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39	I already have a FA 20-35 as my "standard" lens on film camera, so I would clearly like a 24-105 f/4 kit lens to go with it ! FA prime lenses are, then, nice additions to this kit lens. Even for beginners, it covers most of the basic needs, and a constant aperture of f/4 is enough. Sure, f/2.8 high quality FA* zooms would be nice, but better placed as additional lenses rather than kit lens. Or maybe for "premium" kits ?