My budget for FF..........

awaldram · 02-05-2015, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Looking at the prices for lenses, both zooms are above $ 2000 then the FF body isn't going to be cheap I guess..

Interesting 75% of respondents cannot afford a FF camera as their budget constraints don't match reasonable FF costs.

Could explain why Pentax has been so reticent with a FF offering ?

DeadJohn · 02-05-2015, 06:42 AM

That 75% (assuming the poll is accurate) cannot or will not pay for FF probably applies to the Canikon user base, too. Most entry level Canon T3 users never upgrade to FF. Ricoh's challenge is that they are starting from a relatively tiny user base.

kenspo · 02-05-2015, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

That 75% (assuming the poll is accurate) cannot or will not pay for FF probably applies to the Canikon user base, too. Most entry level Canon T3 users never upgrade to FF. Ricoh's challenge is that they are starting from a relatively tiny user base.

I think that Pentax are aiming more for the pro-marked, then the concumer-marked with the FF anyway! Samme with the new lenses for the FF.

**Buffy** · 02-05-2015, 06:54 AM

Assuming it has the features I expect it to have, if the body plus grip price comes in under $2,500 I'll be pleased, under $2,000 and I'll be ecstatic. I won't be able to get any new HD glass at either price, but all my current lenses should work well enough. Might finally sell my MZ-S ...

cmohr · 02-05-2015, 06:55 AM

Definitely a body, probably the 150 - 450mm, once convinced, will get a 43.

**monochrome** · 02-05-2015, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

I hope the new body and one of the newly-designed FF lenses can be had for less than $4,000 together - but I doubt it.

With new information (pre-order prices on the two lenses) make that less than $5,000, together.

I might get the 150-400 for the K-3 instead of the DA*300 and 1.4x TC.

The FF + Grip and the 70~200/2.8 (@ $5,000 +/-) will be a stretch.

loco · 02-05-2015, 08:58 AM

My K-30 is doing just fine, so I'm in no hurry. I will wait for the price to drop, read the reviews, and see how the camera is received before I decide whether I even want one. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy this is finally happening and I look forward to finding out more about the camera.

NickLarsson · 02-05-2015, 02:29 PM

Unfortunately probably 0€ since I now prefer mirrorless cameras.

repaap · 02-05-2015, 02:32 PM

Considering that FF might cost more I should change my rate to 2000-3000. But if it is gonna cost more, I'll buy D645 instead. Used.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-05-2015, 06:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Clavius

Looking at the poll results, I see that most people are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Lets hope that Ricoh isn't setting themselves up for a (sales)disappointment.

Pioneer · 02-09-2015, 01:07 PM

If their record with the K-01, the Q and other initial introductions are an indication then I will be pleasantly surprised if the body is priced somewhere south of $5K.

If they do intend to go for the pro market they have some serious catching up to do in the lens department. Those two new entries are a nice start but they will need a lot more than that to even think of competing with Canikon.

cali92rs · 02-11-2015, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Pioneer

If they do intend to go for the pro market they have some serious catching up to do in the lens department. Those two new entries are a nice start but they will need a lot more than that to even think of competing with Canikon.

The pro market?
People throw that around a lot like the "pro market" means a well defined set of homogeneous requirements.

The "pro market" means landscape, photojournalist, sports, wildlife, theater, fashion, architecture, food, weddings, outdoors/adventure etc etc.
Pentax go after a couple of those genres in real short order with what they already have (and some marketing).

**todd** · 02-11-2015, 10:28 AM

chose 2-3k, only buying body, hoping for an irresistible price (of course), which to me is below 2.5k... At or above 2.5k is hold off. Above 3k is forget it time.

kooks · 02-11-2015, 10:42 AM

Clavius · 02-12-2015, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

The pro market?
People throw that around a lot like the "pro market" means a well defined set of homogeneous requirements.

The "pro market" means landscape, photojournalist, sports, wildlife, theater, fashion, architecture, food, weddings, outdoors/adventure etc etc.
Pentax go after a couple of those genres in real short order with what they already have (and some marketing).

I shoot a lot of jewelry for a big customer. Even though I also have FF and APS-C in my arsenal, I mostly use the Q with K-mount adapter and macro lens for that. Especially for the smaller details. The DOF quickly becomes to narrow at macro levels with the larger formats.

View Poll Results: What is your 12 month budget for FF?
Under $ 1000 (so don't get excited).	56	21.05%
Between $ 1000 and 2000 for just a body.	114	42.86%
Between $ 2000 and 3000 for maybe also a lens or an expensive FF.	61	22.93%
Between $ 3000 and 4000 for body and a lens.	22	8.27%
Between $ 4000 and 5000 for a nice system with one body.	9	3.38%
Between $ 5000 and 10.000 for a system with 2 FF body's.	2	0.75%
Over $ 10.000 for a complete FF system.	2	0.75%
Voters: 266. You may not vote on this poll

02-05-2015, 06:54 AM	#64
Buffy Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greater Boston area, Massachusetts Posts: 389	FF budget Assuming it has the features I expect it to have, if the body plus grip price comes in under $2,500 I'll be pleased, under $2,000 and I'll be ecstatic. I won't be able to get any new HD glass at either price, but all my current lenses should work well enough. Might finally sell my MZ-S ...

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02-05-2015, 06:16 AM	#61
awaldram Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 732	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Looking at the prices for lenses, both zooms are above $ 2000 then the FF body isn't going to be cheap I guess.. Interesting 75% of respondents cannot afford a FF camera as their budget constraints don't match reasonable FF costs. Could explain why Pentax has been so reticent with a FF offering ?

02-05-2015, 06:42 AM	#62
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,834	That 75% (assuming the poll is accurate) cannot or will not pay for FF probably applies to the Canikon user base, too. Most entry level Canon T3 users never upgrade to FF. Ricoh's challenge is that they are starting from a relatively tiny user base.

02-05-2015, 06:46 AM	#63
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by DeadJohn That 75% (assuming the poll is accurate) cannot or will not pay for FF probably applies to the Canikon user base, too. Most entry level Canon T3 users never upgrade to FF. Ricoh's challenge is that they are starting from a relatively tiny user base. I think that Pentax are aiming more for the pro-marked, then the concumer-marked with the FF anyway! Samme with the new lenses for the FF.

02-05-2015, 06:55 AM	#65
cmohr Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Brisbane. Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,824	Definitely a body, probably the 150 - 450mm, once convinced, will get a 43.

02-05-2015, 07:36 AM	#66
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by monochrome I hope the new body and one of the newly-designed FF lenses can be had for less than $4,000 together - but I doubt it. With new information (pre-order prices on the two lenses) make that less than $5,000, together. I might get the 150-400 for the K-3 instead of the DA*300 and 1.4x TC. The FF + Grip and the 70~200/2.8 (@ $5,000 +/-) will be a stretch.

02-05-2015, 08:58 AM	#67
loco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,846	My K-30 is doing just fine, so I'm in no hurry. I will wait for the price to drop, read the reviews, and see how the camera is received before I decide whether I even want one. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy this is finally happening and I look forward to finding out more about the camera.

02-05-2015, 02:29 PM	#68
NickLarsson Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,390	Unfortunately probably 0€ since I now prefer mirrorless cameras.

02-05-2015, 02:32 PM	#69
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Considering that FF might cost more I should change my rate to 2000-3000. But if it is gonna cost more, I'll buy D645 instead. Used.

02-05-2015, 06:50 PM - 1 Like	#70
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675 Original Poster	Originally posted by Clavius Looking at the poll results, I see that most people are setting themselves up for disappointment. Lets hope that Ricoh isn't setting themselves up for a (sales)disappointment.

02-09-2015, 01:07 PM	#71
Pioneer Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wandering the Streets Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,411	If their record with the K-01, the Q and other initial introductions are an indication then I will be pleasantly surprised if the body is priced somewhere south of $5K. If they do intend to go for the pro market they have some serious catching up to do in the lens department. Those two new entries are a nice start but they will need a lot more than that to even think of competing with Canikon.

02-11-2015, 09:59 AM	#72
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Pioneer If they do intend to go for the pro market they have some serious catching up to do in the lens department. Those two new entries are a nice start but they will need a lot more than that to even think of competing with Canikon. The pro market? People throw that around a lot like the "pro market" means a well defined set of homogeneous requirements. The "pro market" means landscape, photojournalist, sports, wildlife, theater, fashion, architecture, food, weddings, outdoors/adventure etc etc. Pentax go after a couple of those genres in real short order with what they already have (and some marketing).

02-11-2015, 10:28 AM	#73
todd Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,799	chose 2-3k, only buying body, hoping for an irresistible price (of course), which to me is below 2.5k... At or above 2.5k is hold off. Above 3k is forget it time.

02-11-2015, 10:42 AM	#74
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794

02-12-2015, 06:10 AM	#75
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by cali92rs The pro market? People throw that around a lot like the "pro market" means a well defined set of homogeneous requirements. The "pro market" means landscape, photojournalist, sports, wildlife, theater, fashion, architecture, food, weddings, outdoors/adventure etc etc. Pentax go after a couple of those genres in real short order with what they already have (and some marketing). I shoot a lot of jewelry for a big customer. Even though I also have FF and APS-C in my arsenal, I mostly use the Q with K-mount adapter and macro lens for that. Especially for the smaller details. The DOF quickly becomes to narrow at macro levels with the larger formats.