FF Officially Announced, to be presented at CP+ 2015

**Spodeworld** · 02-04-2015, 05:33 PM

I wonder if it will have the internal lever to mate with K and M lenses so that aperture can be known.

**Digitalis** · 02-04-2015, 05:33 PM - **1 Like**

That looks like the SMCP-FA31 limited on it, so it will be pretty small. Visually it echoes the Contax SLR design - which is a good thing, as they were very solid cameras.

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Well that's my Christmas present taken care of.

Me too

**Kerrowdown** · 02-04-2015, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by cali92rs

I think I may be a two system guy for a little while though until Pentax releases a 135mm fast prime

There is already one FF lens available... sometimes hard to find mind, like my "Lady Luck” (SMC Pentax-A* 135mm F1.8).

**RobA_Oz** · 02-04-2015, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

In regards to appearance - Read the fine print:

Pentax Full Frame DSLR Officially Announced! - Pentax Announcements | PentaxForums.com

Pentax Full-Frame Prototype (design subject to change)
Note: The specifications and exterior design of this product are yet to be finalized.

Yes, of course. However, unless there is a lot of empty space inside that prototype pentaprism housing, my comment still stands. Big, bright viewfinder! If only it would be replaceable like on the LX, but I'm not holding my breath, even if there's a lot of room for development, yet.

---------- Post added 5th Feb 2015 at 11:09 AM ----------

Originally posted by alamo5000

I hope no one dies from all the over excitement LOL

I also hope a lot of the serial complaining subsides at least a little

It's actually a surprise that comment of any kind has been quite restrained, at least in terms of overall numbers.

alamo5000 · 02-04-2015, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

It's actually a surprise that comment of any kind has been quite restrained, at least in terms of overall numbers.

The announcement came at an odd time if you ask me. I was at work and I scan the forums when I am on break (this one and several others) so that's when I saw it...but one thing is for sure... confirmed fact is a lot less exciting and interesting than unconfirmed rumor. Once it becomes fact then it sort of loses it's luster and becomes 'boring'. Just like all that high school gossiping.

I imagine as word gets out more we will have more talk about it. On the flip side now that Pentax will have a crop/FF/ AND a medium format what is left for people to complain about? Those folks are gonna have to start getting more creative! LOL

If they were half as creative in their photography....LOL

The forum might have to eventually do away with the FF section (my idea to create it BTW)

None the less all I need now is a 77mm to round out my amigos. When the FF finally rolls off the line I will be ready. I will buy one at some point. I just got a K3 and that isn't going anywhere any time soon.

**monochrome** · 02-04-2015, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by alamo5000

I imagine as word gets out more we will have more talk about it. On the flip side now that Pentax will have a crop/FF/ AND a medium format what is left for people to complain about? Those folks are gonna have to start getting more creative! LOL

If they were half as creative in their photography....LOL

The forum might have to eventually do away with the FF section (my idea to create it BTW

Head on over to DPR. Beginning with the snarky announcement (Iit starts by reminding everyone Pentax 'announced' the MZ-D, so don't be sure you'll ever see this camera) the comments are bilious.

I feel dirty.

camerasup · 02-04-2015, 06:45 PM

I wish the camera the best success. This should be the king kong of the k mount.

alamo5000 · 02-04-2015, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Head on over to DPR. Beginning with the snarky announcement (Iit starts by reminding everyone Pentax 'announced' the MZ-D, so don't be sure you'll ever see this camera) the comments are bilious.

I feel dirty.

My whole theory is 'who really cares what those losers have to say?'

That said over the coming few years my prediction is the entrenched powers that be will be forced to recognize Pentax.

---------- Post added 02-04-15 at 07:50 PM ----------

Originally posted by dcshooter

Let me help you out. Pentax needs a large-sensored mirrorless body with all new mount! Pentax needs a cinema cam! Pentax needs a 4"x5" digital LF with support for 1920's leaf shutter lenses! Pentax needs an orbital spy platform!

Can't you see Pentax is Dooooooooooooomed(tm)?!?!?!?!

Your post made me literally laugh out loud.

Now that a FF is on the way can we PLEASE talk about actually taking pictures?

bossa · 02-04-2015, 06:56 PM

I just happen to have my K-5 right here with my FA-31 attached, and, holding it up for a comparison to the image of the prototype, it looks about the same size, apart from the much larger Pentaprism. Also, the apex of the prototypes prism isn't flat for a flash housing.

**Digitalis** · 02-04-2015, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by bossa

the apex of the prototypes prism isn't flat for a flash housing.

yeah I noticed that too - unless pentax has been really clever in hiding the built in flash - the camera looks like it will be in line with the Canon XD and upper level Nikon DXXX FX format cameras, sans built in flash.

---------- Post added 02-05-15 at 01:01 PM ----------

Originally posted by dcshooter

The only things that look Contax-like about it are that it is monolithic black

And when you really think about it that is what I liked about Contax cameras.

Originally posted by dcshooter

Pentax-standard top dial shares the same generic look as that on a RTS

The Contax RTS was anything BUT generic. The RTS is in my top five of the best built SLRs of all time.

goodnight · 02-04-2015, 07:54 PM

I was thinking - between the FF and the successor to the K-50 and potentially the Q7 and MX-1 and GR... are we looking at maybe 5 new cameras that'll push the envelope this year from Pentax/Ricoh?

stevilcornevil · 02-04-2015, 08:17 PM

What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform?

yusuf · 02-04-2015, 08:22 PM

wow, finally. Hope they bring back full k-mount too (de-crippled) and full exif support with manual lenses like Nikon.

**mattt** · 02-04-2015, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by stevilcornevil

What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform?

*likely* Anything under 35mm will vignette... but this new body will Auto Crop to APS-C sized format so they will all work - only some will have a FF FoV.

goodnight · 02-04-2015, 08:43 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevilcornevil

What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform?

They should all work in the crop mode, but for full coverage on 35mm check out the DA lenses on Full Frame thread that falconeye started. It looks like the DA 15 and 21 won't the trick, but the DA 35 can if you stop down to ~f/4-f/5.6 and crop a little, and the DA 40 and 70 will do it with stopping down.

02-04-2015, 07:17 PM	#40
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by bossa the apex of the prototypes prism isn't flat for a flash housing. yeah I noticed that too - unless pentax has been really clever in hiding the built in flash - the camera looks like it will be in line with the Canon XD and upper level Nikon DXXX FX format cameras, sans built in flash. ---------- Post added 02-05-15 at 01:01 PM ---------- Originally posted by dcshooter The only things that look Contax-like about it are that it is monolithic black And when you really think about it that is what I liked about Contax cameras. Originally posted by dcshooter Pentax-standard top dial shares the same generic look as that on a RTS The Contax RTS was anything BUT generic. The RTS is in my top five of the best built SLRs of all time. Last edited by Digitalis; 02-04-2015 at 07:41 PM.

02-04-2015, 07:54 PM	#41
goodnight Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 128	I was thinking - between the FF and the successor to the K-50 and potentially the Q7 and MX-1 and GR... are we looking at maybe 5 new cameras that'll push the envelope this year from Pentax/Ricoh? Last edited by goodnight; 02-04-2015 at 08:10 PM.

02-04-2015, 08:39 PM	#44
mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	Originally posted by stevilcornevil What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform? likely Anything under 35mm will vignette... but this new body will Auto Crop to APS-C sized format so they will all work - only some will have a FF FoV. Last edited by mattt; 02-04-2015 at 08:39 PM. Reason: to be less assertive

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02-04-2015, 05:33 PM	#31
Spodeworld Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Joisey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,370	I wonder if it will have the internal lever to mate with K and M lenses so that aperture can be known.

02-04-2015, 05:33 PM - 1 Like	#32
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	That looks like the SMCP-FA31 limited on it, so it will be pretty small. Visually it echoes the Contax SLR design - which is a good thing, as they were very solid cameras. Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Well that's my Christmas present taken care of. Me too

02-04-2015, 05:35 PM	#33
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,860	Originally posted by cali92rs I think I may be a two system guy for a little while though until Pentax releases a 135mm fast prime There is already one FF lens available... sometimes hard to find mind, like my "Lady Luck” (SMC Pentax-A* 135mm F1.8).

02-04-2015, 06:07 PM	#34
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by Not a Number In regards to appearance - Read the fine print: Pentax Full Frame DSLR Officially Announced! - Pentax Announcements \| PentaxForums.com Pentax Full-Frame Prototype (design subject to change) Note: The specifications and exterior design of this product are yet to be finalized. Yes, of course. However, unless there is a lot of empty space inside that prototype pentaprism housing, my comment still stands. Big, bright viewfinder! If only it would be replaceable like on the LX, but I'm not holding my breath, even if there's a lot of room for development, yet. ---------- Post added 5th Feb 2015 at 11:09 AM ---------- Originally posted by alamo5000 I hope no one dies from all the over excitement LOL I also hope a lot of the serial complaining subsides at least a little It's actually a surprise that comment of any kind has been quite restrained, at least in terms of overall numbers.

02-04-2015, 06:21 PM	#35
alamo5000 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,962	Originally posted by RobA_Oz It's actually a surprise that comment of any kind has been quite restrained, at least in terms of overall numbers. The announcement came at an odd time if you ask me. I was at work and I scan the forums when I am on break (this one and several others) so that's when I saw it...but one thing is for sure... confirmed fact is a lot less exciting and interesting than unconfirmed rumor. Once it becomes fact then it sort of loses it's luster and becomes 'boring'. Just like all that high school gossiping. I imagine as word gets out more we will have more talk about it. On the flip side now that Pentax will have a crop/FF/ AND a medium format what is left for people to complain about? Those folks are gonna have to start getting more creative! LOL If they were half as creative in their photography....LOL The forum might have to eventually do away with the FF section (my idea to create it BTW) None the less all I need now is a 77mm to round out my amigos. When the FF finally rolls off the line I will be ready. I will buy one at some point. I just got a K3 and that isn't going anywhere any time soon.

02-04-2015, 06:34 PM	#36
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by alamo5000 I imagine as word gets out more we will have more talk about it. On the flip side now that Pentax will have a crop/FF/ AND a medium format what is left for people to complain about? Those folks are gonna have to start getting more creative! LOL If they were half as creative in their photography....LOL The forum might have to eventually do away with the FF section (my idea to create it BTW Head on over to DPR. Beginning with the snarky announcement (Iit starts by reminding everyone Pentax 'announced' the MZ-D, so don't be sure you'll ever see this camera) the comments are bilious. I feel dirty.

02-04-2015, 06:45 PM	#37
camerasup Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Bay Area - California Photos: Albums Posts: 103	I wish the camera the best success. This should be the king kong of the k mount.

02-04-2015, 06:48 PM	#38
alamo5000 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,962	Originally posted by monochrome Head on over to DPR. Beginning with the snarky announcement (Iit starts by reminding everyone Pentax 'announced' the MZ-D, so don't be sure you'll ever see this camera) the comments are bilious. I feel dirty. My whole theory is 'who really cares what those losers have to say?' That said over the coming few years my prediction is the entrenched powers that be will be forced to recognize Pentax. ---------- Post added 02-04-15 at 07:50 PM ---------- Originally posted by dcshooter Let me help you out. Pentax needs a large-sensored mirrorless body with all new mount! Pentax needs a cinema cam! Pentax needs a 4"x5" digital LF with support for 1920's leaf shutter lenses! Pentax needs an orbital spy platform! Can't you see Pentax is Dooooooooooooomed(tm)?!?!?!?! Your post made me literally laugh out loud. Now that a FF is on the way can we PLEASE talk about actually taking pictures?

02-04-2015, 06:56 PM	#39
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	I just happen to have my K-5 right here with my FA-31 attached, and, holding it up for a comparison to the image of the prototype, it looks about the same size, apart from the much larger Pentaprism. Also, the apex of the prototypes prism isn't flat for a flash housing.

02-04-2015, 08:17 PM	#42
stevilcornevil New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 13	What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform?

02-04-2015, 08:22 PM	#43
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	wow, finally. Hope they bring back full k-mount too (de-crippled) and full exif support with manual lenses like Nikon.

02-04-2015, 08:43 PM - 1 Like	#45
goodnight Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 128	Originally posted by stevilcornevil What are the odds of the HD DA primes that I've picked up recently working on a full frame platform? They should all work in the crop mode, but for full coverage on 35mm check out the DA lenses on Full Frame thread that falconeye started. It looks like the DA 15 and 21 won't the trick, but the DA 35 can if you stop down to ~f/4-f/5.6 and crop a little, and the DA 40 and 70 will do it with stopping down.