The Best Picture of the New Pentax FF

**monochrome** · 02-05-2015, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by oxidized

So i dont mean to troll or anything but i don't quite understand the level of excitement. (And believe me, i want to be excited. I for one am buying one the moment its released) But, they officially announced they are working on a FF. This is such a marginal step compared to what we already knew. The product doesn't even have a release date and the prototype picture is done w a 3d printer.... this could just as easily get scrapped like it did 10 years ago. or am i missing something?

Yep.

This is Ricoh. Not Pentax Corp. (Asahi), which was already failing at the time of the MZ-D. Not Hoya and Sparxx, which were essentially asset strippers.

Pentax is just a brand owned by Ricoh.

ThePavuk · 02-05-2015, 07:41 AM - **5 Likes**

Ricoh did a lot to not disgrace name of Pentax. They deserve support.

Sagitta · 02-05-2015, 02:43 PM

You know that bigfoot video? The one with him tromping through the woods and pausing for a moment to glance at the camera?

Its a little known fact, but he was pausing to shoot a snapshot with the Pentax full frame, but that clunky video camera used to record the moment didn't have the resolution to pick it up.

**LaurenOE** · 02-05-2015, 03:38 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by oxidized

So i dont mean to troll or anything but i don't quite understand the level of excitement. (And believe me, i want to be excited. I for one am buying one the moment its released) But, they officially announced they are working on a FF. This is such a marginal step compared to what we already knew. The product doesn't even have a release date and the prototype picture is done w a 3d printer.... this could just as easily get scrapped like it did 10 years ago. or am i missing something?

The excitement is based in a promise.
That promise came from the Pentax engineers, who convinced the bean counters to NOT release the MZ-D with an inferior sensor, and that someday, they would deliver on that promise.

In that promise, those engineers stood the watch, waited in the ego-stripping rain, until their careers almost drowned because of that promise.

Some *did* drown, and moved on.

However, we loyal Pentaxians stood with the remaining engineers, shoulder to shoulder and bought the cameras, and made it clear we were united in their vision to bring that pro-level FF camera to fruition.

It was in the dawn of the dSLR age, and our excitement is knowing that promise is once again upon us, and with the new lenses and official announcement is about to be realized.

What exactly is NOT there to be excited about?

It's been over a decade in the making?

**Kerrowdown** · 02-05-2015, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by pearsaab

Lauren only buys 2 of everything

It's called redundancy... the duplication of critical components or functions, failure is not an option on her watch.

I'm the same too.

**LaurenOE** · 02-05-2015, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

It's called redundancy... the duplication of critical components or functions, failure is not an option on her watch.

I'm the same too.

Yep. On any given shoot there are three ( or more ) cameras!

Trudger1272 · 02-05-2015, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by ThePavuk

Ricoh did a lot to not disgrace name of Pentax. They deserve support.

Yes! Support! That's exactly my angle. From what I've seen, Ricoh has done nothing but deliver since I bought my K30 and I hope it has the Ricoh logo on the back just like my K-3. "Though some may disagree." Still it is Ricoh who is reviving the brand covering all bases:
point & shoot,
action,
aps-c,
medium format
and soon "full frame."
After that, the only thing missing would be a large format camera.(never happenin!

) Even though I don't really need one, I'm holding off on a few upcoming lens purchases because, when the FF drops this year, "I buying one just because." Honestly I'm too happy, but it's cool though. It make for a better day.

AbadPhotography · 02-07-2015, 05:36 PM

I've learned so much with my K-3. It will be great though to take my legacy lenses and mount them to a new digital camera and utilize to the full.

Beaugrand · 02-08-2015, 07:04 PM

Obviously, someone in the Ricoh marketing department realized there is an underserved market between the APS-C DSLR and the MF DSLR. There should be three grades- the all-out, no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared PRO FF, the mid-range workhorse, and the entry/ProSumer grade; the entry/Prosumer priced just above the most expensive APS-C model.

Tesla · 02-08-2015, 08:14 PM

This is a cool one:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/287872-now-lets-tal...ml#post3150854

Blue · 02-09-2015, 09:40 AM

Looks like an opportunity to spread a rumor of a digital FF 6x7 to get started.

Beaugrand · 02-09-2015, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Blue

Looks like an opportunity to spread a rumor of a digital FF 6x7 to get started.

The potential market for a FF 6X7 is far smaller than the market for a 35mm FF.

Blue · 02-09-2015, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Beaugrand

The potential market for a FF 6X7 is far smaller than the market for a 35mm FF.

02-05-2015, 07:41 AM - 5 Likes	#17
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Trudger1272 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Photos: Albums Posts: 288	Originally posted by ThePavuk Ricoh did a lot to not disgrace name of Pentax. They deserve support. Yes! Support! That's exactly my angle. From what I've seen, Ricoh has done nothing but deliver since I bought my K30 and I hope it has the Ricoh logo on the back just like my K-3. "Though some may disagree." Still it is Ricoh who is reviving the brand covering all bases: point & shoot, action, aps-c, medium format and soon "full frame." After that, the only thing missing would be a large format camera.(never happenin!) Even though I don't really need one, I'm holding off on a few upcoming lens purchases because, when the FF drops this year, "I buying one just because." Honestly I'm too happy, but it's cool though. It make for a better day.

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02-05-2015, 07:12 AM	#16
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by oxidized So i dont mean to troll or anything but i don't quite understand the level of excitement. (And believe me, i want to be excited. I for one am buying one the moment its released) But, they officially announced they are working on a FF. This is such a marginal step compared to what we already knew. The product doesn't even have a release date and the prototype picture is done w a 3d printer.... this could just as easily get scrapped like it did 10 years ago. or *am i missing something?* Yep. This is Ricoh. Not Pentax Corp. (Asahi), which was already failing at the time of the MZ-D. Not Hoya and Sparxx, which were essentially asset strippers. Pentax is just a brand owned by Ricoh.

02-05-2015, 02:43 PM	#18
Sagitta Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,081	You know that bigfoot video? The one with him tromping through the woods and pausing for a moment to glance at the camera? Its a little known fact, but he was pausing to shoot a snapshot with the Pentax full frame, but that clunky video camera used to record the moment didn't have the resolution to pick it up.

02-05-2015, 03:38 PM - 2 Likes	#19
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	Originally posted by oxidized So i dont mean to troll or anything but i don't quite understand the level of excitement. (And believe me, i want to be excited. I for one am buying one the moment its released) But, they officially announced they are working on a FF. This is such a marginal step compared to what we already knew. The product doesn't even have a release date and the prototype picture is done w a 3d printer.... this could just as easily get scrapped like it did 10 years ago. or am i missing something? The excitement is based in a promise. That promise came from the Pentax engineers, who convinced the bean counters to NOT release the MZ-D with an inferior sensor, and that someday, they would deliver on that promise. In that promise, those engineers stood the watch, waited in the ego-stripping rain, until their careers almost drowned because of that promise. Some did drown, and moved on. However, we loyal Pentaxians stood with the remaining engineers, shoulder to shoulder and bought the cameras, and made it clear we were united in their vision to bring that pro-level FF camera to fruition. It was in the dawn of the dSLR age, and our excitement is knowing that promise is once again upon us, and with the new lenses and official announcement is about to be realized. What exactly is NOT there to be excited about? It's been over a decade in the making?

02-05-2015, 03:47 PM	#20
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,818	Originally posted by pearsaab Lauren only buys 2 of everything It's called redundancy... the duplication of critical components or functions, failure is not an option on her watch. I'm the same too.

02-05-2015, 04:30 PM	#21
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kerrowdown It's called redundancy... the duplication of critical components or functions, failure is not an option on her watch. I'm the same too. Yep. On any given shoot there are three ( or more ) cameras!

02-07-2015, 05:36 PM	#23
AbadPhotography Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 29	I've learned so much with my K-3. It will be great though to take my legacy lenses and mount them to a new digital camera and utilize to the full.

02-08-2015, 07:04 PM	#24
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	Obviously, someone in the Ricoh marketing department realized there is an underserved market between the APS-C DSLR and the MF DSLR. There should be three grades- the all-out, no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared PRO FF, the mid-range workhorse, and the entry/ProSumer grade; the entry/Prosumer priced just above the most expensive APS-C model.

02-08-2015, 08:14 PM	#25
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	This is a cool one: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/169-pentax-full-frame/287872-now-lets-tal...ml#post3150854

02-09-2015, 09:40 AM	#26
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Looks like an opportunity to spread a rumor of a digital FF 6x7 to get started.

02-09-2015, 10:05 AM	#27
Beaugrand Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 63	Originally posted by Blue Looks like an opportunity to spread a rumor of a digital FF 6x7 to get started. The potential market for a FF 6X7 is far smaller than the market for a 35mm FF.

02-09-2015, 09:05 PM	#28
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Beaugrand The potential market for a FF 6X7 is far smaller than the market for a 35mm FF.