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02-05-2015, 10:56 AM   #16
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SR and/or Sensor Shift Capability?

I was hoping for FF Pentax would :
-- (A) have SR,
-- (B) have significant sensor shift capability (e.g., on the order of 10-15mm)**, or
-- (C) both.
The body does not show "SR" so does that indicate SR is not likely?

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** May require using MF lens, or a new lens w/ larger image circle--if the K mount can accommodate the shift.

02-05-2015, 11:21 AM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by dms Quote
I was hoping for FF Pentax would :
-- (A) have SR,
-- (B) have significant sensor shift capability (e.g., on the order of 10-15mm)**, or
-- (C) both.
The body does not show "SR" so does that indicate SR is not likely?

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** May require using MF lens, or a new lens w/ larger image circle--if the K mount can accommodate the shift.
It has a little groove that looks like it will eventually have an SR emblem
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QuoteOriginally posted by ndevlin Quote
Holy sh*t it's ugly. Could Ricoh please fire the Pentax design department and hire someone with the vaguest hint of visual elegance?

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Yeah, i kind of agree with you. I dont really know what pentax is doing with their design. The k30s design was ok. I think it was their best designed camera so far and they should have used that as a model for their other cameras imo.
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Gotta disagree here. The k-30 looked like it was designed to appeal to 13 year old boys and "EXTREME" sports afficionadoes. It was the Monster Energy Drink of Pentax cameras.

Most of the otjher Pentax SLRs have a nice refined and understated look with form following function/ergonomics rather than the other way around. As I've stated before, this camera is very early 3d-printed mockup and has no actual rubber grip, a sticker for a logo, and no textual aids, badges, or icons of any kind, and plastic printed strap lugs. If you look at the very early prototypes of the new FF lenses, they were very plain looking as well, since important details were purposely left out in order to leave room for design finalization. Now they look a lot more like other modern Pentax lenses. If you can visualize all of the missing elements on this one, it suddenly starts looking a lot more like the K-3 or K-5, albeit with the larger peaked prism housing, which will be necessary for the larger viewfinder that goes along with the full 35mm format. AS it stands, the plainness and the peaked housing are all people are seeing, so they say it looks like a 67 or a Contax.

QuoteOriginally posted by neostyles Quote
Yeah, i kind of agree with you. I dont really know what pentax is doing with their design. The k30s design was ok. I think it was their best designed camera so far and they should have used that as a model for their other cameras imo.


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That was my initial reaction, looks like a Pentax 67II. But I think it looks fine, can't wait to see more specs. Listen, for every 2 Pentaxians you're going to get about 5 views as to what it should look like...
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the k30 may have been the monster energy drink. but atleast it was appealing. This may be an early prototype, but the design issues go far beyond any of the things you have mentioned. Pentax still seems to be very poor in the design department. Look at how boxy this thing is. And all the hard edges. Pentax loves touting their specs but their cameras are going to carry a dated feel imho as long as they dont bring their design language into the 21st century.


Furthermore, i dont know why they only have a "3d printed prototype" i think not pairing the announcement with an actual, usable version of the camera is hurting them.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ndevlin Quote
Holy sh*t it's ugly. Could Ricoh please fire the Pentax design department and hire someone with the vaguest hint of visual elegance?
True. Perhaps they are trying to look different? Nikon/Canon are very rounded. Also, I bet it will look better with an actual body, with the grip, and the usual paraphernalia like labels, designs, watev.
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It's not just canon/nikon dude. I dont know of any dslr out there that looks that boxy.. Here is an olympus




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Maybe, like a Volvo they think, "Boxy. But Good."

And FWIW, maybe the rich old men who will buy a $3,000 toy like traditional. boxy cameras. After a few showers my bar of soap looks like a Canon.

The K-S1 might be more the new Ricoh design ethic for general market appeal.
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Hope it is smaller in the final release, and handy. Same size of K5, and K3
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QuoteOriginally posted by neostyles Quote
I dont know of any dslr out there that looks that boxy.
Uhhhhh...

Seriously, except for the expanded prism housing and lack of the left-hand bump (which many complained about when introduced), the general lines are almost exacly the same as the K-3. And as an actual e-510 owner, I can tell you the Pentax has a significantly better feel in the hand. And now that they are out of the actual SLR business, Olympus's "SLR-equivalents" aren't exactly curvaceous:

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You figure they got to put the mechanism for the crop-mode vs. full-mode in there. I wonder if they are going to leave out the AA-filter or go the way of the K3 ?
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You figure they got to put the mechanism for the crop-mode vs. full-mode in there. I wonder if they are going to leave out the AA-filter or go the way of the K3 ?
I'm so hoping! Otherwise I got the DA*55 for nothing
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Maybe, like a Volvo they think, "Boxy. But Good.".
+1 for the Dudley Moore Reference


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QuoteOriginally posted by neostyles Quote
The k30s design was ok. I think it was their best designed camera so far and they should have used that as a model for their other cameras imo.
I liked the K-30 design, as well. The K-50 just seems.. really cute. But the K-30 looks rugged, strong. I think the K-30 had one problem, though - its prism and flash were protruding forward and would prevent some (older, third party) lenses from mounting fully. Mostly T/S lenses if I remember correctly.

I like a big viewfinder, so I am glad the FF has a big top! But this is a rough prototype, I expect the final product to look much better, more polished, with the textures, buttons, labels.
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