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02-14-2015, 12:19 PM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
relative size of K-3 vs. D750 vs. K-(?)
Nikon D750 (113mm) is to small beside Pentax K3 (100mm).


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02-15-2015, 01:31 PM   #47
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Size comparison side by side

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02-15-2015, 01:43 PM   #48
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sagala Quote
Size comparison side by side
I'm afraid you are completely and utterly wrong in your evaluation.
Not going to bother arguing with you, but your math is gibberish.

YMMV

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02-15-2015, 02:20 PM   #49
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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
I've scaled the K-3 vs K-2 to demonstrate that this new camera is quite a bit bigger than the K-3. It is much more like my Nikon D800



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What feature(s) did you use as the basis for your scaling? The strap lugs, mode dial, and shutter button all look quite a bit larger on your FF vs the K-3.

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I simply aligned the two images (rather precisely I might add) based on the lens release button and the AF/Manual switch, which I will admit is an assumption but the best one available until they provide more data. One should not align based on the lens diameter due to unknowable perspective distortion. Other dimensions of the new camera such as the wheels and dials are simply unknown at this point. I should also offer an edit to my original post: the new K-FF? appears to be closer in size to the Nikon D750, not the D800.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mrNewt Quote
If that will actually happen, then the missing built-in flash is not such a big deal.
But the missing RF receivers in all Pentax flashes might be !!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by awaldram Quote
But the missing RF receivers in all Pentax flashes might be !!!
Not necessarily... they can upgrade their flashes with receivers built in and also offer a receiver for the older flashes.
Is not rocket science this... radio triggers/receivers are fairly simple to build and small.

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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
I've scaled the K-3 vs K-2 to demonstrate that this new camera is quite a bit bigger than the K-3. It is much more like my Nikon D800



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I'd say that's probably a little smaller than a D600
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The easiest way to approximate the size is for someone with a K-3 and a FA 31 take some snaps at the same angles as we have of the FF mockup with the FA 31 attached. Then all you have to do is scale the FA 31's the same and then you have the relative size comparison.

As for the pop up flash there is no need for one. Pentax should instead include a small weather sealed flash that is powered through the hot shoe as the alternative. Allowing some tilt for some bounce would be great. Swivel would be a bonus. This would be better than a pop up flash.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
I've scaled the K-3 vs K-2 to demonstrate that this new camera is quite a bit bigger than the K-3. It is much more like my Nikon D800



Michael
That is my thought, though just a smidgen smaller than the Nikon. There is a photo with the K-S2 and Pentax FF mock-up in the same frame that is quite telling. The FF mock-up is not that much bigger.


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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
relative size of K-3 vs. D750 vs. K-(?)
I think your scaling for the K-3 is off. The K-mount and F-mount have the same diameter in real life.


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QuoteOriginally posted by taowang Quote
No built-in flash on full frame body, which is bad, as it's the easiest way, if not the only way, to trigger the single off-camera external flash with P-TTL support.
As others, I believe omitting the pop-up flash is a good idea.

The pop-up flash cannot be put to serious use anyhow. It is too weak to function as a good controller over larger distances and recent Pentax DSLRs cannot use it to control off-camera flashes in HSS mode.

Regular P-TTL off-camera flashes can still be triggered by mounting a P-TTL flash on-camera.
I'd be using a radio trigger only, remote controlling off-camera flashes manually. Way better than fiddling with P-TTL anyhow.

I can't see Ricoh surprising us all with an RF-based flash system. Someone should open up an FGZ II flash and peek around for the RF antenna, anyhow.

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no Mic and Earphone port, these might suggest there is no video recording support on the full frame body;
I agree with Wired that these are surely hidden by a flap/door.

The more I look at the FF model design, the more I like it. Nice mix between the compactness of a K-3 and the stately / professional appearance of a classic MF camera.

I would welcome if it were a bit bigger than the K-5 / K-3. I love my K-5 II, but if it were a bit bigger, it would fit like a glove, as opposed to something that I have to slightly accommodate to.
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AI would welcome if it were a bit bigger than the K-5 / K-3. I love my K-5 II, but if it were a bit bigger, it would fit like a glove, as opposed to something that I have to slightly accommodate to.
Amen. The K-3 nice as it is, is too small for me without the grip. And with the grip, it is bigger than my D800.

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Isn't the plastic blob/mockup, of which Pentax clearly stated that it will still change, and for which they are still gathering ideas for from the users on their site, being over-analysed?
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QuoteOriginally posted by MJSfoto1956 Quote
Amen. The K-3 nice as it is, is too small for me without the grip. And with the grip, it is bigger than my D800.

YMMV

Michael
Since I put an L bracket on my K3 it's just perfect to handle.
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