Full frame vs K-3 side by side

johnmflores · 02-12-2015, 12:26 PM

I'll take the one on the left.

Well done!

rawr · 02-12-2015, 12:30 PM

Nice visualisation of the full-frame.

But really all we have before us at present is a high-tech version of this kind of older molded plastic and clay (?) model, as seen here for the K-3:

We shouldn't read too much into what we are seeing on display at the moment. Like the K-3 model, many a button or bump on the full-frame model may appear or disappear as the ergonomics are refined, and the camera moves closer to production.

**LaurenOE** · 02-12-2015, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

From the pictures...I can't see how it "won't" have a flip out screen.

If it doesn't have a flash, no biggie for me, although I do use one on the K3 from time to time.

Not a deal breaker in any way for me to buy the FF.
Even if the FF doesn't have video, it will still not be a deal breaker.

The FF as *just* a stills camera would be awesome to go with my K3 workflow!!

But...if this camera is going to go that route...it have better have awesome low light performance, great IQ, fast frame rates and everything that goes with a "scaled down 645z" which would work just fine with me too.

I can't imagine not having video of some sort, but regardless, I will be buying the FF when it is available....even pre-ordering it when it's available.

mrNewt · 02-12-2015, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

If you want thin, Sony has a camera for you!

Steve

One of the reasons I got one already.

**Pål Jensen** · 02-12-2015, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

From the pictures...I can't see how it "won't" have a flip out screen.

I meant that it has a tilting screen...

**MJSfoto1956** · 02-12-2015, 01:08 PM - **2 Likes**

I've scaled the K-3 vs K-2 to demonstrate that this new camera is quite a bit bigger than the K-3. It is much more like my Nikon D800

Michael

Franky2step · 02-12-2015, 01:31 PM

Oh the crying is starting already

mrNewt · 02-12-2015, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Franky2step

Oh the crying is starting already

Deal with it... the crying will never stop

Franky2step · 02-12-2015, 01:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mrNewt

Deal with it... the crying will never stop

Deal with it? I'll MARVEL at it

Na Horuk · 02-12-2015, 01:49 PM

The new FF has no flash! Even worse, it has no textures, there are no labels, and the buttons cannot even be pushed in! Its almost like what we are seeing isn't even a finished product or something [/sarcasm]

**Ash** · 02-12-2015, 02:04 PM

I don't see why the lack of a popup flash on a pro body is a handicap. Few high end cameras include one. Even in my amateur shooting, for fill flash or evening/night shooting, the popup flash barely gets any use. I grab the AF540FGZ preferentially every time.

As for wireless shooting, again, the range of wireless shooting having an external flash body is greatly improved, especially in daylight, and I have found two flashes bail me out greatly in such settings.

It is possible that the FF body could also incorporate radio triggering.

mrNewt · 02-12-2015, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Ash

It is possible that the FF body could also incorporate radio triggering.

If that will actually happen, then the missing built-in flash is not such a big deal.

stillshot2 · 02-12-2015, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Franky2step

Deal with it? I'll MARVEL at it

Lol! Complainers are jus gonna complain

fwbigd · 02-12-2015, 03:39 PM

It's truly amazing that people are speculating on what the new FF camera will and will not have from a plastic unfinished model. This is not a prototype!!!! Ricoh has'nt even finished the final design of the camera yet and much less finalized what features will be included in the camera. Why do you think Ricoh Imaging just days ago sent a survey asking the uses what features they would like to see included it it.

Wired · 02-12-2015, 03:45 PM

No way will they skip video functions on this camera. Just remember how much flak Nikon got for the df not having video.

Mic and headphones jacks will be under the flap doors for sure.

02-12-2015, 01:49 PM	#25
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	The new FF has no flash! Even worse, it has no textures, there are no labels, and the buttons cannot even be pushed in! Its almost like what we are seeing isn't even a finished product or something [/sarcasm] Last edited by Na Horuk; 02-12-2015 at 02:56 PM.

02-12-2015, 03:39 PM	#29
fwbigd Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 339	It's truly amazing that people are speculating on what the new FF camera will and will not have from a plastic unfinished model. This is not a prototype!!!! Ricoh has'nt even finished the final design of the camera yet and much less finalized what features will be included in the camera. Why do you think Ricoh Imaging just days ago sent a survey asking the uses what features they would like to see included it it. Last edited by fwbigd; 02-12-2015 at 03:51 PM.

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02-12-2015, 12:26 PM	#16
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	I'll take the one on the left. Well done!

02-12-2015, 12:30 PM	#17
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Nice visualisation of the full-frame. But really all we have before us at present is a high-tech version of this kind of older molded plastic and clay (?) model, as seen here for the K-3: We shouldn't read too much into what we are seeing on display at the moment. Like the K-3 model, many a button or bump on the full-frame model may appear or disappear as the ergonomics are refined, and the camera moves closer to production.

02-12-2015, 12:42 PM	#18
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by LaurenOE From the pictures...I can't see how it "won't" have a flip out screen. If it doesn't have a flash, no biggie for me, although I do use one on the K3 from time to time. Not a deal breaker in any way for me to buy the FF. Even if the FF doesn't have video, it will still not be a deal breaker. The FF as just a stills camera would be awesome to go with my K3 workflow!! But...if this camera is going to go that route...it have better have awesome low light performance, great IQ, fast frame rates and everything that goes with a "scaled down 645z" which would work just fine with me too. I can't imagine not having video of some sort, but regardless, I will be buying the FF when it is available....even pre-ordering it when it's available.

02-12-2015, 12:43 PM	#19
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by stevebrot If you want thin, Sony has a camera for you! Steve One of the reasons I got one already.

02-12-2015, 01:02 PM	#20
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by LaurenOE From the pictures...I can't see how it "won't" have a flip out screen. I meant that it has a tilting screen...

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MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305	I've scaled the K-3 vs K-2 to demonstrate that this new camera is quite a bit bigger than the K-3. It is much more like my Nikon D800 Michael

02-12-2015, 01:31 PM	#22
Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	Oh the crying is starting already

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mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Franky2step Oh the crying is starting already Deal with it... the crying will never stop

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Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	Originally posted by mrNewt Deal with it... the crying will never stop Deal with it? I'll MARVEL at it

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Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	I don't see why the lack of a popup flash on a pro body is a handicap. Few high end cameras include one. Even in my amateur shooting, for fill flash or evening/night shooting, the popup flash barely gets any use. I grab the AF540FGZ preferentially every time. As for wireless shooting, again, the range of wireless shooting having an external flash body is greatly improved, especially in daylight, and I have found two flashes bail me out greatly in such settings. It is possible that the FF body could also incorporate radio triggering.

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02-12-2015, 02:53 PM	#27
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Ash It is possible that the FF body could also incorporate radio triggering. If that will actually happen, then the missing built-in flash is not such a big deal.

02-12-2015, 03:27 PM	#28
stillshot2 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Albums Posts: 1,070	Originally posted by Franky2step Deal with it? I'll MARVEL at it Lol! Complainers are jus gonna complain

02-12-2015, 03:45 PM	#30
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	No way will they skip video functions on this camera. Just remember how much flak Nikon got for the df not having video. Mic and headphones jacks will be under the flap doors for sure.