Please meet the FF camera from Pentax

**RuiC** · 02-12-2015, 05:20 PM - **4 Likes**

You all know already how it will look from that 3D printing.
Now it's time to show some innards. From the drawings we can see that the top LCD is inclined to the rear. That reminds me the MZ-S !

The top LCD is numbered 30 on the drawing.

Attached Images

**robbiec** · 02-12-2015, 05:29 PM

Where on earth did you find this? Any chance of getting the descriptions for the numbers?

Steve.Ledger · 02-12-2015, 05:37 PM

lol... What a teaser.

**RuiC** · 02-12-2015, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by robbiec

Where on earth did you find this? Any chance of getting the descriptions for the numbers?

Patent Images

**boriscleto** · 02-12-2015, 05:38 PM

It clearly has an AF screw drive.

Docrwm · 02-12-2015, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

It clearly has an AF screw drive.

Glory be! Glad to see it! Patent publication date 2/5/15
http://pdfaiw.uspto.gov/.aiw?PageNum=1&docid=20150037023&IDKey=1E5FEA832FFF&...%2F20150037023

**jpzk** · 02-12-2015, 06:50 PM

Wicked find !!
Almost "Wikileaks" type !

tuco · 02-12-2015, 07:01 PM

They will get their rubber-stamped patent too. Here is the criteria that the US patent office is suppose to go by for granting a patent.

Quote:

A patent is a grant of exclusive rights in an invention. To be patentable in most jurisdictions, including Canada and the United States, an invention must be useful and proper subject matter. In addition, it must be novel and inventive. An invention is considered to be novel if it was not previously disclosed or known to the public anywhere in the world. An invention is inventive if it would not be obvious to an average person working in the field to which the invention relates, taking into consideration the state of the art on the day you file your patent application (and in some cases on the date of invention).

So, give 100 teams of Mechanical and Electrical Engineers the task of figuring out a cam drive control mechanism...bla, bla... and I bet 99 out 100 will solve the problem. Were I work, at a big corporation, they are on a rampage having their employees apply for patents. And so many are issued for simple things. It's pretty sad, really.

**clackers** · 02-12-2015, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by tuco

Were I work, at a big corporation, they are on a rampage having their employees apply for patents. And so many are issued for simple things. It's pretty sad, really.

I think the trend these days is for untrained civil servants to grant a lot of applications quickly and let the courts sort out the messes. :-)

Adam · 02-12-2015, 08:49 PM

That looks an awful lot like the K-3 to me.

Not a Number · 02-12-2015, 09:13 PM

Foreign application dates July 30, 2013, Sept 27, 2013. US file date July 28, 2014.

**ROBEFFY** · 02-12-2015, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Adam

That looks an awful lot like the K-3 to me.

I figure you should know!

I am impressed with thinking of getting patent info! Now that is thinking " out of the box "! Kudos!

rburgoss · 02-12-2015, 09:21 PM

Strangest thing here is publication date. Just 1 week ago, so this is not related to the K3. I don't know how this works, but I guess if the patent is related to the new FF body, then its too soon to expect real production of related new FF body. I would believe that a patent published today, is either a marketing blockage towards competition or a product to be disclosed at least 2-3 years down the road.

Maybe a future improved FF body to replace the one being presented today at CP+?

HYS · 02-12-2015, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by rburgoss

.....

Maybe a future improved FF body to replace the one being presented today at CP+?

I really hope..

Not a Number · 02-12-2015, 10:44 PM

It's the file date that matters in patents. The first file date (foreign) is July 30, 2013 about 18 months ago. So they've been probably working on this for 2 or more year.

02-12-2015, 05:20 PM - 4 Likes	#1
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Please meet the FF camera from Pentax You all know already how it will look from that 3D printing. Now it's time to show some innards. From the drawings we can see that the top LCD is inclined to the rear. That reminds me the MZ-S ! The top LCD is numbered 30 on the drawing. Attached Images

02-12-2015, 06:09 PM	#6
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by boriscleto It clearly has an AF screw drive. Glory be! Glad to see it! Patent publication date 2/5/15 http://pdfaiw.uspto.gov/.aiw?PageNum=1&docid=20150037023&IDKey=1E5FEA832FFF&...%2F20150037023 Last edited by Docrwm; 02-12-2015 at 06:21 PM.

02-12-2015, 08:49 PM	#10
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02-12-2015, 05:29 PM	#2
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Where on earth did you find this? Any chance of getting the descriptions for the numbers?

02-12-2015, 05:37 PM	#3
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	lol... What a teaser.

02-12-2015, 05:38 PM	#4
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633 Original Poster	Originally posted by robbiec Where on earth did you find this? Any chance of getting the descriptions for the numbers? Patent Images

02-12-2015, 05:38 PM	#5
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	It clearly has an AF screw drive.

02-12-2015, 06:50 PM	#7
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Wicked find !! Almost "Wikileaks" type !

02-12-2015, 07:01 PM	#8
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,029	They will get their rubber-stamped patent too. Here is the criteria that the US patent office is suppose to go by for granting a patent. Quote: A patent is a grant of exclusive rights in an invention. To be patentable in most jurisdictions, including Canada and the United States, an invention must be useful and proper subject matter. In addition, it must be novel and inventive. An invention is considered to be novel if it was not previously disclosed or known to the public anywhere in the world. An invention is inventive if it would not be obvious to an average person working in the field to which the invention relates, taking into consideration the state of the art on the day you file your patent application (and in some cases on the date of invention). So, give 100 teams of Mechanical and Electrical Engineers the task of figuring out a cam drive control mechanism...bla, bla... and I bet 99 out 100 will solve the problem. Were I work, at a big corporation, they are on a rampage having their employees apply for patents. And so many are issued for simple things. It's pretty sad, really.

02-12-2015, 07:08 PM	#9
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by tuco Were I work, at a big corporation, they are on a rampage having their employees apply for patents. And so many are issued for simple things. It's pretty sad, really. I think the trend these days is for untrained civil servants to grant a lot of applications quickly and let the courts sort out the messes. :-)

02-12-2015, 09:13 PM	#11
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Foreign application dates July 30, 2013, Sept 27, 2013. US file date July 28, 2014.

02-12-2015, 09:13 PM	#12
ROBEFFY Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 248	Originally posted by Adam That looks an awful lot like the K-3 to me. I figure you should know! I am impressed with thinking of getting patent info! Now that is thinking " out of the box "! Kudos!

02-12-2015, 09:21 PM	#13
rburgoss Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, Costa Rica Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 972	Strangest thing here is publication date. Just 1 week ago, so this is not related to the K3. I don't know how this works, but I guess if the patent is related to the new FF body, then its too soon to expect real production of related new FF body. I would believe that a patent published today, is either a marketing blockage towards competition or a product to be disclosed at least 2-3 years down the road. Maybe a future improved FF body to replace the one being presented today at CP+?

02-12-2015, 10:33 PM	#14
HYS Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 377	Originally posted by rburgoss ..... Maybe a future improved FF body to replace the one being presented today at CP+? I really hope..

02-12-2015, 10:44 PM	#15
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	It's the file date that matters in patents. The first file date (foreign) is July 30, 2013 about 18 months ago. So they've been probably working on this for 2 or more year.