Originally posted by monochrome Will you kindly cite your sources for all these assertions? Internet anecdotes are entertaining and all but your constant insistance that you are right (and thus perhaps Ricoh will get it wrong) does nothing but build up a Goggle Search priority for this thread.
So - please - show us your real, carefully crafted and repeatable market studies that support your points.
Do you have carefully crafted and repeatable market studies that show the contrary?? Obviously I dont have studies, Pentax should have them somewhere but surely not available to the public, i dont know why is so hard to understand, that for enthusiast shooters whenever you have the K3 there is no more that you can move on (once again 645Z doenst count), yes, getting some glass could help, but sometimes that would not be enough..
Pentax high-end APS-C shooters are not used to pay more than the $1300, we never had something higher (besides MF) .. Do you really think (we gotta use some logic here ), do you REALLY think, that this APS-C shooters are going to buy a $3000 body + lenses?? NO.. they dont look for something that fancy at start, they look for a camera that can delivere good images with a FF sensor ( shallow dof + good low light, etc).. after buying this camera they look for something better, following the normal path.. Same as most people do.. you start with something basic, and start going up, thats the normal path, perhaps some people will jump this path and go to the top high end FF, but thats not what generally happens.
So no, I dont have the studys or market reports, but i can bet you that most people that left the brand in order to shoot FF didnt buy the D810 or the 5Dmk3 at start.. they got something like D610s or A7's, perhaps some 6Ds, and perhaps some of them D750... after that they got the high end models ( if they thought it was nessesary ).. is not a matter of market studys, is just a matter of logic.
Perhaps im wrong, i never said that im 100% right, i can totally be wrong, but thats what I think, and is my experience, my friends that shooted with Pentax and left the brand thats how they did it... but, that could be just my experience and not everybodys.