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View Poll Results: How much would you pay for an FF body?
Less than 1800 8234.75%
1800-2399 9339.41%
2400-2999 5222.03%
3000-3499 72.97%
3500-4499 10.42%
4500 or more 10.42%
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03-19-2015, 11:51 AM - 1 Like   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by Barry Pearson Quote
If the first FF camera has high-specification and a matching price, many people will still buy it, (because they want a Pentax FF camera), then hold onto it for a long time because of their investment in it. After all, unless it breaks, it will still continue to take the same high-quality photos.
So why 'upgrade' to full frame? The main reason that seems to be given appears to be based on nothing more than the fact it's full frame with a few tenuous justifications thrown in.

03-19-2015, 02:17 PM   #62
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QuoteOriginally posted by mohb Quote
So why 'upgrade' to full frame? The main reason that seems to be given appears to be based on nothing more than the fact it's full frame with a few tenuous justifications thrown in.
The general opinion seems to be there are certain situations where FF is a better tool and others where APSc is the batter tool, depending on what you shoot. If less noise, more dynamic range, a certain style of bokeh and subject isolation with limited shooting room are your thing - use FF* (or even MF**).

If smaller size (understanding the potential sacrifice of aperture) or reach - for sports, landscape or birding - is your deal - use APSc.




* or keeping up with the Joneses
** or making the Joneses keep up with you.
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I would do it just for the better optical viewfinder, and to have a higher-end camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
subject isolation
This is why I shoot a LOT of medium format and have taken a real shine to large format. Even at f4.5, a 6X9 portrait has amazing image qualities.

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I'd be willing to pay up to about $2500, but I wouldn't be too upset if it was lower. Otherwise I might wait it out a little.
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Now that the cat is out of the bag, will we have 80+ Pentax FF DSLR users by the end of the year?
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Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above.
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I wouldn't even call it 'sampling' - even of this forum. But we do have over 80+ people willing to pay in this poll; and I'm just curious how many of them would really do it.

I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3 ) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012).
It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite.

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Only one thing is certain, people will be buying into a much more expensive platform with no noticeable improvement in photos. The speculations on the nonexistent 36Mp(?) FF has already been realised in the K5IIs.
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I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need" for me, hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810. In fact I am more interested in the k-3 sequel.... I digress....

OTOH, I am happy for those who will want FF from Pentax...

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QuoteOriginally posted by aleonx3 Quote
I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need", hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810.
Such a shame, I thought that iso 50 setting would have come really handy....oh well....
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above.
I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body and I haven't left the Pentax brand! I "joined" the Pentax brand in 1967. Then I shot 36mm x 24mm until 2004. Soon I will start again.

We are not talking about whether anyone will buy the FF camera. Of course some people will! We are just talking about the numbers.

QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3 ) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012).
It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite.
Whatever my current equipment can do, sometimes I want to push my photography a bit further. Or often I want to achieve similar results easier. Both of those are likely to apply here.

But there is another answer I sometimes give to people who ask me why I'm doing something that they can't understand: "because I can"! And in this case I will.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Barry Pearson Quote
I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body
But you won't have to.
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$2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par.
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$2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par.
Yeah, 2500 tops. Any higher than that I reckon wouldn't be worth the upgrade from my K5. Hmm...
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