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Kunzite · 03-19-2015, 02:30 PM

I would do it just for the better optical viewfinder, and to have a higher-end camera.

K David · 03-19-2015, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

subject isolation

This is why I shoot a LOT of medium format and have taken a real shine to large format. Even at f4.5, a 6X9 portrait has amazing image qualities.

ZackHuggins · 03-21-2015, 09:04 PM

I'd be willing to pay up to about $2500, but I wouldn't be too upset if it was lower.

Otherwise I might wait it out a little.

Kunzite · 04-18-2015, 07:10 AM

Now that the cat is out of the bag, will we have 80+ Pentax FF DSLR users by the end of the year?

Winder · 04-18-2015, 09:09 AM - **1 Like**

Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above.

Kunzite · 04-18-2015, 09:34 AM

I wouldn't even call it 'sampling' - even of this forum. But we do have over 80+ people willing to pay in this poll; and I'm just curious how many of them would really do it.

I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3

) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012).
It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite.

dtmateojr · 04-18-2015, 07:33 PM

Only one thing is certain, people will be buying into a much more expensive platform with no noticeable improvement in photos. The speculations on the nonexistent 36Mp(?) FF has already been realised in the K5IIs.

aleonx3 · 04-18-2015, 07:47 PM

I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need" for me, hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810. In fact I am more interested in the k-3 sequel.... I digress....

OTOH, I am happy for those who will want FF from Pentax...

Stavri · 04-18-2015, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by aleonx3

I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need", hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810.

Such a shame, I thought that iso 50 setting would have come really handy....oh well....

Barry Pearson · 04-19-2015, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above.

I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body and I haven't left the Pentax brand! I "joined" the Pentax brand in 1967. Then I shot 36mm x 24mm until 2004. Soon I will start again.

We are not talking about whether anyone will buy the FF camera. Of course some people will! We are just talking about the numbers.

Originally posted by Kunzite

I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3

) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012).
It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite.

Whatever my current equipment can do, sometimes I want to push my photography a bit further. Or often I want to achieve similar results easier. Both of those are likely to apply here.

But there is another answer I sometimes give to people who ask me why I'm doing something that they can't understand: "because I can"! And in this case I will.

Kunzite · 04-19-2015, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body

But you won't have to.

sb in ak · 04-24-2015, 10:37 PM

$2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par.

sangerspyro · 04-25-2015, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by sb in ak

$2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par.

Yeah, 2500 tops. Any higher than that I reckon wouldn't be worth the upgrade from my K5. Hmm...

kooks · 04-28-2015, 03:22 PM

Ill say as i did before.. something between $2300 and $2500 is a reasonable price for a nice feature latest tech FF

not THAT high.. not THAT low.. great features, great lenses.. looking nice for Pentax

**monochrome** · 04-28-2015, 04:16 PM

The main fault with this poll on this Forum is it excludes those who don't use English as a first or (much smaller sample) second language. That sample resides mostly in the part of the world represeting less than half or Ricoh's sales, and where the infrastructure in teh 'consumer' market (USA) was destroyed over the past 20 years.

A far more indicative poll would ask Japanese Pentax Users hw ,any Yen they would pay for a FF Pentax.

View Poll Results: How much would you pay for an FF body?
Less than 1800	82	34.75%
1800-2399	93	39.41%
2400-2999	52	22.03%
3000-3499	7	2.97%
3500-4499	1	0.42%
4500 or more	1	0.42%
Voters: 236. You may not vote on this poll

04-18-2015, 07:47 PM	#68
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need" for me, hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810. In fact I am more interested in the k-3 sequel.... I digress.... OTOH, I am happy for those who will want FF from Pentax... Last edited by aleonx3; 04-18-2015 at 07:57 PM.

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03-19-2015, 02:30 PM	#61
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I would do it just for the better optical viewfinder, and to have a higher-end camera.

03-19-2015, 02:33 PM	#62
K David Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,437	Originally posted by monochrome subject isolation This is why I shoot a LOT of medium format and have taken a real shine to large format. Even at f4.5, a 6X9 portrait has amazing image qualities.

03-21-2015, 09:04 PM	#63
ZackHuggins Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 43	I'd be willing to pay up to about $2500, but I wouldn't be too upset if it was lower. Otherwise I might wait it out a little.

04-18-2015, 07:10 AM	#64
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Now that the cat is out of the bag, will we have 80+ Pentax FF DSLR users by the end of the year?

04-18-2015, 09:09 AM - 1 Like	#65
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above.

04-18-2015, 09:34 AM	#66
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I wouldn't even call it 'sampling' - even of this forum. But we do have over 80+ people willing to pay in this poll; and I'm just curious how many of them would really do it. I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3 ) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012). It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite.

04-18-2015, 07:33 PM	#67
dtmateojr Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 604	Only one thing is certain, people will be buying into a much more expensive platform with no noticeable improvement in photos. The speculations on the nonexistent 36Mp(?) FF has already been realised in the K5IIs.

04-18-2015, 07:52 PM	#69
Stavri Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: at a Bean & Leaf Photos: Albums Posts: 1,832	Originally posted by aleonx3 I am not convince that my event photos will be better using FF (that I can not do with the k-3 or higher APS-C models)... so, it boils down to "want' instead of "need", hence I am not jumping into FF immediately even if it has boat loads of features comparable or better to D810 and priced lower than D810. Such a shame, I thought that iso 50 setting would have come really handy....oh well....

04-19-2015, 12:03 AM	#70
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Winder Its a very poor sampling of the market. The people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a FF body left the Pentax brand years ago. All you have left are the "APS-C is good enough", and people looking for the "value brand". Both of who are reflected in the numbers above. I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body and I haven't left the Pentax brand! I "joined" the Pentax brand in 1967. Then I shot 36mm x 24mm until 2004. Soon I will start again. We are not talking about whether anyone will buy the FF camera. Of course some people will! We are just talking about the numbers. Originally posted by Kunzite I think you are mistaken about the "all you have left" part; sure, some people left due to the lack of a FF camera (and now are using Canon FF, Nikon FF, Sony FF or m4/3 ) - but the user base is not like a static, fixed amount which can only decrease, and would eventually become depleted. There are newcomers, people change (e.g. their income, how they do photography), the market changes (e.g. FF cameras at prices we couldn't dream of before 2012). It's far from a hopeless situation, it's actually the opposite. Whatever my current equipment can do, sometimes I want to push my photography a bit further. Or often I want to achieve similar results easier. Both of those are likely to apply here. But there is another answer I sometimes give to people who ask me why I'm doing something that they can't understand: "because I can"! And in this case I will.

04-19-2015, 12:05 AM	#71
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Barry Pearson I'm willing to spend "a lot" on an FF body But you won't have to.

04-24-2015, 10:37 PM	#72
sb in ak Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 612	$2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par.

04-25-2015, 12:22 PM	#73
sangerspyro New Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7	Originally posted by sb in ak $2500. Not that it's a figure I can afford, but anything lower than that probably insures build or specs will not be up to par. Yeah, 2500 tops. Any higher than that I reckon wouldn't be worth the upgrade from my K5. Hmm...

04-28-2015, 03:22 PM	#74
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Ill say as i did before.. something between $2300 and $2500 is a reasonable price for a nice feature latest tech FF not THAT high.. not THAT low.. great features, great lenses.. looking nice for Pentax

04-28-2015, 04:16 PM	#75
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	The main fault with this poll on this Forum is it excludes those who don't use English as a first or (much smaller sample) second language. That sample resides mostly in the part of the world represeting less than half or Ricoh's sales, and where the infrastructure in teh 'consumer' market (USA) was destroyed over the past 20 years. A far more indicative poll would ask Japanese Pentax Users hw ,any Yen they would pay for a FF Pentax.

How much would you pay for the FF body only?

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