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03-28-2015, 04:52 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeodial Quote
So I am a pretty happy K3 user, but am excited about the potential of getting even more from my lenses with the upcoming Full Frame. For me to pull the trigger straight away, on release of the camera, these are the key issues:


  1. Increased DR
  2. Higher resolution (or at least the same at 24MP)
  3. Improved low light performance over the K3. (Which is already pretty good)
  4. WR (must have, don't want a plastic camera I can't take out in the field)
  5. Not huge profile. (A little larger than the K3, but as small as is practical)
  6. Price in the $1.5-2.5K range (USD)
  7. Excellent dust control


Nice to have but not essential:


  • Better integration with wi-fi and remote control
  • ASPC compatibility for my DA lenses (Crop mode)
  • More programmability for bracketing and long shots


Just some thoughts. The Sony A7r is also attractive, but would like to have the auto-focus and WR.
well... the A7R is weather sealed and it have AF with native lenses.

since it is out Oct, and Sony A7RII will announce soon, the Pentax FF will have to beat Sony A7RII in terms of price..
and then features, if not it will be a tough choice.

03-28-2015, 05:07 PM   #17
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Faster sync, simple HSS(no more on board flashgun), real B&W function.
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The Full Frame: What will make you buy it?

Because it's a Pentax!
03-28-2015, 05:17 PM   #19
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4K / 60p video recording, without a clip length limitation .

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I've started a LWVCS (Low Wife Visability Cash Stash) for it...... however I'm thinking more then ever that APSC is right 95% of the time for me (lens reach, camera size etc)......however I'm drawn to wanting one like a moth to light......so I reckon I'm suffering from the "Mac Mansion Crisis".......ie....what will get me buying it is my own stupid 'n reckless desire to own something I don't need!......the "human condition" again.
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Fast focus.
Probably about 36mp, FF
Ability to still use da lenses & have the 1.5x crop factor.
Weather sealed.
Probably less expensive than it could possibly be! (Meaning I'll be maybe looking for one 2nd-hand!)
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Full APSC back-compatibility and legacy support, to the point of including an M42 adapter ring in the box. Anything less is a deal breaker.
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Just make it stand out and unique!!

1. Tether - For some reason Pentax doesn't allow live-view tethering. Meaning, to see live image on a PC/laptop.
2. Support higher sync speed. 1/180 is not enough.
3. More focus points OUTSIDE the center square. Just like the D7100.
4. Less noise in high ISO - This has been improving but I am willing to sacrifice more mega pixels towards a better quality in high ISO mode.
5. Just make it so attractive that third-party companies will see that Pentax is again a leading brand and then will make ALL their lenses available for Pentax, again! I am tired of looking for a good X2 converter that works with the SDM lenses or extension tubes or a Sigma 180mm 1:1 Macro or remote triggers that support P-TTL.


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What will make me buy a Pentax FF?

1] Lower resolution and thus much better DR and high ISO performance. A la Sony A7S

2] non crippled K mount so that old non "A lenses" don't need stopping down
03-28-2015, 05:37 PM   #25
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For me, and I think a number of these will be included

Enhanced AF system, At least 27 points of the K-3, hopefully more.
Full weather sealing (more of a given)
Flip tilt LCD ala KS-2
Best low light performance for the sensor chosen, either the 24MP or 36MP one.
No AA filter.
A switch or menu control to turn off the crop factor discussed for DA lenses, meaning that the DA lenses that cover the FF sensor (DA35, DA50, DA40, various DA*) can be used accordingly
Superior Flash sync, 1/180 does not cut it anymore, we need 1/250
Tethering for studio work
Wireless control from a smartphone
Good FPS for sports and nature
Magnesium body
Price less than the Nikon D750
Ability to select focus point for confirmation when using manual lenses.
Big Buffer for write speeds, even the fastest Sandisk cards take time to write on my K-5
Maybe even have dual SDXC/CF card slots.
14 bit RAW files minimum.

Apart from these, nothing mare really.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeodial Quote
So I am a pretty happy K3 user, but am excited about the potential of getting even more from my lenses with the upcoming Full Frame. For me to pull the trigger straight away, on release of the camera, these are the key issues:


  1. Increased DR
  2. Higher resolution (or at least the same at 24MP)
  3. Improved low light performance over the K3. (Which is already pretty good)
  4. WR (must have, don't want a plastic camera I can't take out in the field)
  5. Not huge profile. (A little larger than the K3, but as small as is practical)
  6. Price in the $1.5-2.5K range (USD)
  7. Excellent dust control


Nice to have but not essential:


  • Better integration with wi-fi and remote control
  • ASPC compatibility for my DA lenses (Crop mode)
  • More programmability for bracketing and long shots


Just some thoughts. The Sony A7r is also attractive, but would like to have the auto-focus and WR.
I hope it has a gorgeous large OVF! That's all I want comparing to Sony a7r...
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Flash x-sing 1/250

Full HD 60p-50p video recording, without a clip length limitation

Big Buffer for write speeds

Improved low light performance over the K3


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1. Tethering & Wireless- I have a studio and seeing others canicons with these features.....%$#$%$@%^
2. 1/250 with flash - /supra/
3. max. 24Mp! I did a billboard with 6Mp camera, Pentax *ist DL2

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There is samsung nx in my pocket, for travel or family quick-shots, that is appropriate size for aps-c format...
I love my "kit": K-5IIs plus DA55*1.4, but FF-camera is appropriate size for K-mount.

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My eyes have grown weary of the digital look. Went back to film so got my full frame already
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You're all dreaming. It will be much closer to $3,000 than $2,000 with the features listed here as necessities. Think D810 price range, which is $2,999 US street.

The only thing I need that my K-3 doesn't have is a bigger, brighter, f/2.8 viewfinder, preferably with a focus aid such as microprisms. Split-screen will black out, so I don't want that. I'd like to have the hinged LCD, but it isn't essential.

I want my collection of OEM fitting hoods for my manual focus lenses to work they way they were designed.

Will I pay $2,799 USD for a viewfinder? Dunno. To buy the camera I'd have to sell all my film cameras and all the manual focus lenses I kept when I traded up to the Three Princesses. Then I wouldn't need the camera unless I buy the 24-70 and the 70-200 - which would be twice the price of the camera.

I guess I could do the twenties in the envelope deal for a year. By then the early adopters will have figured everything out. We'll see.

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