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04-09-2015, 07:56 AM - 1 Like   #46
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Top 3 prime, that other system have but Pentax don't.

1. DFA Limited 24mm F1.4 WR
24mm is wide enough for me.

2. DFA Limited 35mm F1.4 WR

3. DFA Limited 135 F1.8 WR
- agree with OP on this, and Pentax do have a A* 135 f1.8 before.

I would like a new FA*85 f1.4, but I already have this lens.

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Dfa* 12-24 f 2.8
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They are working on two or three zooms, no time to devlevop primes for now; you going have to wait 3 years to have a DFA primes.

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3 years? Really?
asahi man said something about next year.

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you going have to wait 3 years to have a DFA primes.
Really hope you're wrong about that.
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I want a lens at least a wide as 15mm for landscape work. There is a something like a 15-30mm zoom on the roadmap. But my concern is that it will be big and heavy (and expensive).

So I would like a high-quality prime (not necessarily large aperture) at the wide end, as an alternative to that wide zoom. (Otherwise, I'm not particularly interested in primes. I like zooms).
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
They are working on two or three zooms, no time to devlevop primes for now; you going have to wait 3 years to have a DFA primes.
Its better to say I don't know then misguide people.
Asahi man has said that 2-3 completely new dfa primes (not redesigns) will make their appearance in 2016, a newly updated map will include such primes latter this year
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QuoteOriginally posted by Barry Pearson Quote
I want a lens at least a wide as 15mm for landscape work. There is a something like a 15-30mm zoom on the roadmap. But my concern is that it will be big and heavy (and expensive).

So I would like a high-quality prime (not necessarily large aperture) at the wide end, as an alternative to that wide zoom. (Otherwise, I'm not particularly interested in primes. I like zooms).
When you look at the competition (Canonikon) those lenses start at $1250 up to over $2000 (ignoring Fish Eye). Maybe if Pentax were to make an F4 Version... The is ofcourse always Samyang/Rokinon/Bower

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First of all the new tres amigos: DFA 31, 43 and 77; all with DC, WR, quick shift and 9 circular aperture blades.
Could having 9 circular blades possibly alter the nature of the 43's bokeh? Personally I'm not sure I might like that - the bokeh of the current 43 is unique, possessing a certain texture and special quality about it. This contributes in part to the unique rendering or "look" that the FA43 Ltd imparts on the images it captures. I'm not talking here about the shape of OOF highlights, rather the character of the bokeh. If having 9 circular blades causes the bokeh to change to the more common, typical "smooth" variety (not that this type of bokeh is a bad thing in itself), then we're talking about losing one significant aspect of the 43's signature character.

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Really hope you're wrong about that.
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3 years? Really? asahi man said something about next year.
I was double guessing here. It looks like already a lot to bring two new DFA and one DA zoom as shown in the road map (if I remember well) . But I have not clue if it takes more time to develop a zoom versus prime.
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Basically, everything samyang makes, but AF, and ideally WR.

Doesn't have to be DC or SDM. I like screw drive. It can be upgraded with a better camera body motor, and is a lot less likely to fail.
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@biz-engineer:
Pentax was able to launch no less than 8 lenses in 2008, including 4 DA* and 1 DA Limited.
Having - let's say - 5 zooms this year i.e. the 2 DFAs already announced, the kit lens and another 2 lenses from the roadmap, and launching the 2 remaining zooms together with 2-3 primes in 2016 should be within their capacity.
Let's not forget that Ricoh Imaging was preparing for the FF since 2012.

Your scenario doesn't make sense for a camera maker trying to push a new product line. 4 lenses on the roadmap, 3 more years until the 5th? No way.
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Those folks wishing for exotic superteles and f/1.4 wideangles - I don't know about that. It seems to me they're asking Ricoh to out-Canikon Canon and Nikon. That is, try to beat them at their own game. I just fear that if Ricoh pursued that strategy, the Pentax forte of compactness and character would be lost or weakened in the process. We'd end up with a copy of the Nikon lens catalog instead of a really different alternative.
Which may be what Ricoh want to do. One of the selling points of the current line-up is not the 1.4s, but a 21 f/3.2, and 40 f/2.8 and a 70 f/2.4. Why not hope for a similar FF line-up (although the 70 should work on FF already).

QuoteOriginally posted by Barry Pearson Quote
I want a lens at least a wide as 15mm for landscape work. There is a something like a 15-30mm zoom on the roadmap. But my concern is that it will be big and heavy (and expensive).
This is the nature of fast FF zooms. They are big, heavy and expensive.

For me, the trick would be to build a unique system around an FF sensor by seriously considering the tradeoffs between fast and large.
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A rectillinear D FA 20 or 21mm WR, f4 is OK with me if f4 is good.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ian Stuart Forsyth Quote
20 1.8
28 1.8
35 1.8
50 1.8
80 1.4
300 2.8
This looks good, but I'd add:

20mm f/2.8 (for the small, portable less $ WA prime, equiv to 13mm f/1.8 on aps-c)
200mm f/2 (Nikon's is absolutely incredible)

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