When do you expect the new Full Frame in shops?

RonHendriks1966 · 07-26-2015, 07:15 AM

So it's time to Express your expectations. Only one answer can be given, but you can always wrote something. It is not about announcements, or about your own purchasing, but about the month that customers can have the new camera in their hands.

What do you think?

rawr · 07-26-2015, 07:35 AM

I would like to believe 'tomorrow'. But since it seems very troublesome for Pentax to make such a camera, I expect it's debut to be sometime in 2016. Early 2016, at best.

biz-engineer · 07-26-2015, 07:40 AM

Announced end of September, available in November. Waiting to see what lenses are proposed (beside the DFA70-200 and 150-450). Waiting to see the pricing of the full frame body + lens. Waiting to see practical evaluation of the full frame system against current K-3 system (as the difference in IQ between the D750 and D7200 seems to be marginal).

**boriscleto** · 07-26-2015, 07:40 AM - **1 Like**

When it's ready.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-26-2015, 07:48 AM

I expect a presentation at CP+ and in shops in march.

biz-engineer · 07-26-2015, 08:04 AM

there's a link to products to be exhibited on the CP+ website ;-)

VisualDarkness · 07-26-2015, 08:12 AM

I've heard "in time for the Christmas rush" for so many products but they rarely seem to make it. Nobody wants to release a product just after Christmas so they will fall into the usual March release for electronics.

Bagga_Txips · 07-26-2015, 08:16 AM

I want to add something to what boriscleto said...

for beta testing by the public.

In full:

I expect the new Full Frame in shops when it is ready for beta testing by the public.

Unless you are a determined early adopter I wouldn't recommend buying one until it has been on sale for a year.

biz-engineer · 07-26-2015, 08:22 AM

The thing is the Pentax FF might not be the product that kills the K-3II super pixel shifting before its own bugs are corrected. Delayed to march 2016, indeed?

**monochrome** · 07-26-2015, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

The thing is the Pentax FF might not be the product that kills the K-3II super pixel shifting before its own bugs are corrected. Delayed to march 2016, indeed?

Which PS bugs are those?

biz-engineer · 07-26-2015, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Which PS bugs are those?

typo , no PS bugs , others bugs, addressed/being addressed. Letting more time to K-3II before releasing the FF. That's all I meant.

derekkite · 07-26-2015, 08:50 AM

Ricoh has such a small market share there is no market to protect by delaying something else.

**monochrome** · 07-26-2015, 08:51 AM

The only K-3II issue I'm aware of is the 'Won't shut off' issue.

The way I see the 'Won't shut off' issue, Pentax received a bad lot from a part supplier, identified the affected cameras by Serial Number, posted a notice, offered a free repair to affected cameras, pre-positioned a supply of parts to Precision so repair turnaround is (apparently now) 2-4 days plus shipping - and accepted return of all affected unsold inventory from their US retailers.

How does that constitute a direct reason to delay the introduction date of the FF?

**monochrome** · 07-26-2015, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

When it's ready.

When the entire system, including the new lenses, the unannounced lenses, the 'surprise' (if PS isn't the surprise), and the FW programming to properly expose (and possibly crop) existing chipped lenses has been fully tested by Pentax engineers - and is ready.

IOW, unless they say otherwise, November, 2015.

btnapa · 07-26-2015, 09:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

So it's time to Express your expectations. Only one answer can be given, but you can always wrote something. It is not about announcements, or about your own purchasing, but about the month that customers can have the new camera in their hands.

What do you think?

Knowing Pentax, there is no telling. They seem to be working on an arbitrary schedule that makes no sense. K3 came out of nowhere so did k3II. My guess is prototype by CES in January and market release some 3-4 months later.

All I know is that they better hurry before more people jump ship to Sony or someone who is offering FF bodies. I hate to see Pentax go by the way of the dodo bird.

View Poll Results: When is the new Full Frame available in shops?
September 2015	1	0.63%
October 2015	10	6.25%
November 2015	35	21.88%
December 2015	28	17.50%
Januari 2016	4	2.50%
Februari 2016	8	5.00%
March 2016	19	11.88%
April 2016	18	11.25%
May 2016	3	1.88%
Juni 2016	6	3.75%
Juli 2016	0	0%
Augustus 2016	1	0.63%
September 2016	4	2.50%
October 2016	0	0%
November 2016	2	1.25%
December 2016 or later.....	6	3.75%
NEVER!	15	9.38%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

07-26-2015, 07:15 AM	#1
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	When do you expect the new Full Frame in shops? So it's time to Express your expectations. Only one answer can be given, but you can always wrote something. It is not about announcements, or about your own purchasing, but about the month that customers can have the new camera in their hands. What do you think?

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07-26-2015, 07:35 AM	#2
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	I would like to believe 'tomorrow'. But since it seems very troublesome for Pentax to make such a camera, I expect it's debut to be sometime in 2016. Early 2016, at best.

07-26-2015, 07:40 AM	#3
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Announced end of September, available in November. Waiting to see what lenses are proposed (beside the DFA70-200 and 150-450). Waiting to see the pricing of the full frame body + lens. Waiting to see practical evaluation of the full frame system against current K-3 system (as the difference in IQ between the D750 and D7200 seems to be marginal).

07-26-2015, 07:40 AM - 1 Like	#4
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	When it's ready.

07-26-2015, 07:48 AM	#5
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675 Original Poster	I expect a presentation at CP+ and in shops in march.

07-26-2015, 08:04 AM	#6
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	there's a link to products to be exhibited on the CP+ website ;-)

07-26-2015, 08:12 AM	#7
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	I've heard "in time for the Christmas rush" for so many products but they rarely seem to make it. Nobody wants to release a product just after Christmas so they will fall into the usual March release for electronics.

07-26-2015, 08:16 AM	#8
Bagga_Txips Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Waterford Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 454	I want to add something to what boriscleto said... for beta testing by the public. In full: I expect the new Full Frame in shops when it is ready for beta testing by the public. Unless you are a determined early adopter I wouldn't recommend buying one until it has been on sale for a year.

07-26-2015, 08:22 AM	#9
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	The thing is the Pentax FF might not be the product that kills the K-3II super pixel shifting before its own bugs are corrected. Delayed to march 2016, indeed?

07-26-2015, 08:31 AM	#10
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by biz-engineer The thing is the Pentax FF might not be the product that kills the K-3II super pixel shifting before its own bugs are corrected. Delayed to march 2016, indeed? Which PS bugs are those?

07-26-2015, 08:35 AM	#11
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by monochrome Which PS bugs are those? typo , no PS bugs , others bugs, addressed/being addressed. Letting more time to K-3II before releasing the FF. That's all I meant.

07-26-2015, 08:50 AM	#12
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Ricoh has such a small market share there is no market to protect by delaying something else.

07-26-2015, 08:51 AM	#13
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	The only K-3II issue I'm aware of is the 'Won't shut off' issue. The way I see the 'Won't shut off' issue, Pentax received a bad lot from a part supplier, identified the affected cameras by Serial Number, posted a notice, offered a free repair to affected cameras, pre-positioned a supply of parts to Precision so repair turnaround is (apparently now) 2-4 days plus shipping - and accepted return of all affected unsold inventory from their US retailers. How does that constitute a direct reason to delay the introduction date of the FF?

07-26-2015, 08:56 AM	#14
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by boriscleto When it's ready. When the entire system, including the new lenses, the unannounced lenses, the 'surprise' (if PS isn't the surprise), and the FW programming to properly expose (and possibly crop) existing chipped lenses has been fully tested by Pentax engineers - and is ready. IOW, unless they say otherwise, November, 2015.

07-26-2015, 09:21 AM - 1 Like	#15
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 So it's time to Express your expectations. Only one answer can be given, but you can always wrote something. It is not about announcements, or about your own purchasing, but about the month that customers can have the new camera in their hands. What do you think? Knowing Pentax, there is no telling. They seem to be working on an arbitrary schedule that makes no sense. K3 came out of nowhere so did k3II. My guess is prototype by CES in January and market release some 3-4 months later. All I know is that they better hurry before more people jump ship to Sony or someone who is offering FF bodies. I hate to see Pentax go by the way of the dodo bird.