Originally posted by Another dyemention If you want to play a victim by claiming I called you a waste, that is your prerogative and I won't try changing your mind.
And yes, they would need to sell much more. But what happens in a year when there are 20,000 new pentax users instead of 20? And what happens the following year when there is 20,000 more and when my "less than dslr" isn't good enough and a large percentage upgrades. After a few years, there's a huge new wave of pentax users (or at least those who know of pentax and their products). now you've opened your company to thousands and thousands of new camera owners who may have never though about owning a ff or even a dslr. Why do you think nikon is so successful? They offer a crappy d3200 that half the people will outgrow after a year and the other half probably don't we after a year. But so what? Nikon got their money. Then they offer a decent d5200 (which still isn't as good as a k50) and they know most d3200 users probably will skip and go to a d7200 when they upgrade. A d5200 user will probably upgrade to a full frame.
Should pentax do the same? No. Why? Why jump in that pool? Why not offer an alternative to the entry level dslr crowd that will get people hooked? Why not go that route first? Then you have a whole brand new generation of people wanting more from their cameras. Of course, advertising could alleviate a need for this all together but consumers won't have to decide between pentax nikon or canon for their entry level dslr. They will have something different all together and already be a part of the pentax consumer group. And if they're happy, why would they move up to a nikon or canon? It'll be right up the pentax dslr to full frame chain.
I'm not playing victim, I'm pointing out to your rudeness; too bad you still can't figure out. Because coming on a Pentax forum, on a section dedicated to those interested in this FF camera, and say that we're "a waste" and Ricoh Imaging should rather ignore us is rude.
Your 20 and 20,000 numbers are made up and utterly ridiculous in fact; you have nothing to show that your vague idea will bring up buyers on a 3 order of magnitude larger scale. Let's replace 20 with 10,000 - which is a plausible number for the initial monthly production volume for the FF. Your 20,000 becomes 10,000,000.
For a single month.
For reference, the total camera sales (CIPA participants only) in August was almost 3,000,000 units.
Pentax should continue making products we want because we're their customers. They should not change their strategy every time someone on the Internet makes up an incomplete "perfect" strategy, just because said someone believes it must work. Someone who can't even define the product he's asking for, and can't admit there's no place for something in between the compacts, Q and entry level DSLRs/large sensor MILCs.
At least we know what we want - a Pentax FF DSLR - and we will pay for it. We're not an imaginary market.