FF new rumours

Parallax · 10-16-2015, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

This is a public forum on the internet, anything published, No matter how blatantly phony, will be (mis)taken for the truth. cf. Poe's law

Or, as P. T. Barnum supposedly said: "There's a sucker born every minute."

cfraz · 10-16-2015, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

I agree with that; however, in this case it is so blatantly phony I don't think anybody could mistake it for reality.

One would certainly think so. Apparently that's not the case.

solar1 · 10-28-2015, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Hand-held super resolution would be nice. But why wasn't it included in the K-3 II if this is true?

Moichendizing? What's that?

You Tube

Jean Poitiers · 10-28-2015, 08:51 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Parallax

Or, as P. T. Barnum supposedly said: "There's a sucker born every minute."

Or as it's said in the used car business ... "There's an ass for every seat."

normhead · 11-30-2015, 11:39 AM

Back on topic...
Full Frame by PENTAX | RICOH IMAGING

**boriscleto** · 11-30-2015, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Back on topic...
Full Frame by PENTAX | RICOH IMAGING

But that's a new format SRL...

bertwert · 11-30-2015, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

But that's a new format SRL...

Can't be the new FF DSLR at all, can it?

**ffking** · 11-30-2015, 01:24 PM

I wonder what they mean by brand new format - that's definitely the camera they've been growing in a greenhouse - and they call it full frame at the top of the ad

hsteeves · 11-30-2015, 10:21 PM

FF digital is a new format for Pentax - they have never had one before.

D1N0 · 12-01-2015, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by hsteeves

FF digital is a new format for Pentax - they have never had one before.

They did actually but decided not to take it into production.

Contax brought out a camera with the same sensor. it failed. It was just too soon, the sensors weren't good enough and too expensive at the time.

hsteeves · 12-02-2015, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

They did actually but decided not to take it into production.

Contax brought out a camera with the same sensor. it failed. It was just too soon, the sensors weren't good enough and too expensive at the time.

So, while they may have talked about it, Pentax has never actually had a full frame camera available for sale in the marketplace. Then the K-1, if it does make it into consumers' hands, will be a new format for them. Also, this is a new format for Ricoh-Pentax as the previous full frame model with the shared sensor with Contax, was under different ownership. It's all in the wording.

racingsnake · 12-02-2015, 01:17 AM

One of the top tech russian websites posted a brief article about the upcoming pentax ff. https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/pentax-ff-first-photo/
For those few who dont speak russian the article says that the camera is going to have
-36 mp sony sensor
-No aliasing filter
-5 axis IS
-super resolution mode
-diffraction correction
-x0.78 viewfinder
-14 bit Prime IV engine
-crop mode to use da lenses

Kunzite · 12-02-2015, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by racingsnake

One of the top tech russian websites posted a brief article about the upcoming pentax ff. https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/pentax-ff-first-photo/
For those few who dont speak russian the article says that the camera is going to have
-36 mp sony sensor
-No aliasing filter
-5 axis IS
-super resolution mode
-diffraction correction
-x0.78 viewfinder
-14 bit Prime IV engine
-crop mode to use da lenses

That sounds remarkably similar to a certain fake slide.

---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ----------

Originally posted by ffking

People seem very determined to put this brand new format issue down to poor english on the part of Ricoh - and yes, there is plenty of that in the teaser - but it does strike me as odd that they should talk so much about innovation if the only selling point they offer is that the camera is going to join what is becoming the norm amongst high-end DSLRs. Obviously, if you're going to buy an off the peg sensor from Sony, you are limited to what they produce, and this is the best reason for believing that the camera will be a conventional FF- but I have measured the rear LCD on the early FF mock-up and it has a 5:4 ratio. Now I know that you can't read across from LCD shape to sensor shape automatically - they might intend histograms or whatever to be below the playback image not to overlay it, for example - but up to now, the rear LCD has been the same shape as the sensor, so it's at least worth giving a moment's thought to, imo - 5x4 is a classic photographic ratio that can still be cropped to 3:2 or whatever you want. I haven't seen a flat on image of the under-glass model LCD, so I can't measure that.

Aaaand... the text was updated. No more "SRL", no more "Petnax" (I'll miss that one!), "PENTAX is launching a full frame digital SLR, brand-new format for PENTAX."

It's perfectly normal to talk about their rich history, it's actually abnormal not to. IMHO.

Jean Poitiers · 12-02-2015, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

That sounds remarkably similar to a certain fake slide.

---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ----------

Aaaand... the text was updated. No more "SRL", no more "Petnax" (I'll miss that one!), "PENTAX is launching a full frame digital SLR, brand-new format for PENTAX."

It's perfectly normal to talk about their rich history, it's actually abnormal not to. IMHO.

And who says that they do not read the forums ...

**ffking** · 12-02-2015, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ----------

brand-new format for PENTAX."

.

of course they might have meant to say 'from Pentax'

I did notice too late that they'd changed the script, but thanks for pointing it out - though it is still the case that the rear LCD is 5:4, which is at least interesting, whatever the reason - I await further information, as we all do

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10-16-2015, 08:00 AM	#61
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Digitalis This is a public forum on the internet, anything published, No matter how blatantly phony, will be (mis)taken for the truth. cf. Poe's law Or, as P. T. Barnum supposedly said: "There's a sucker born every minute."

10-16-2015, 08:21 AM	#62
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by Parallax I agree with that; however, in this case it is so blatantly phony I don't think anybody could mistake it for reality. One would certainly think so. Apparently that's not the case.

10-28-2015, 08:51 AM - 2 Likes	#64
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by Parallax Or, as P. T. Barnum supposedly said: "There's a sucker born every minute." Or as it's said in the used car business ... "There's an ass for every seat."

11-30-2015, 11:39 AM	#65
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Back on topic... Full Frame by PENTAX \| RICOH IMAGING

11-30-2015, 12:12 PM	#66
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,476	Originally posted by normhead Back on topic... Full Frame by PENTAX \| RICOH IMAGING But that's a new format SRL...

11-30-2015, 12:13 PM	#67
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by boriscleto But that's a new format SRL... Can't be the new FF DSLR at all, can it?

11-30-2015, 01:24 PM	#68
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	I wonder what they mean by brand new format - that's definitely the camera they've been growing in a greenhouse - and they call it full frame at the top of the ad

11-30-2015, 10:21 PM	#69
hsteeves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 256	FF digital is a new format for Pentax - they have never had one before.

12-01-2015, 06:41 AM	#70
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by hsteeves FF digital is a new format for Pentax - they have never had one before. They did actually but decided not to take it into production. Contax brought out a camera with the same sensor. it failed. It was just too soon, the sensors weren't good enough and too expensive at the time.

12-02-2015, 01:09 AM	#71
hsteeves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 256	Originally posted by D1N0 They did actually but decided not to take it into production. Contax brought out a camera with the same sensor. it failed. It was just too soon, the sensors weren't good enough and too expensive at the time. So, while they may have talked about it, Pentax has never actually had a full frame camera available for sale in the marketplace. Then the K-1, if it does make it into consumers' hands, will be a new format for them. Also, this is a new format for Ricoh-Pentax as the previous full frame model with the shared sensor with Contax, was under different ownership. It's all in the wording.

12-02-2015, 01:17 AM	#72
racingsnake Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 431	One of the top tech russian websites posted a brief article about the upcoming pentax ff. https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/pentax-ff-first-photo/ For those few who dont speak russian the article says that the camera is going to have -36 mp sony sensor -No aliasing filter -5 axis IS -super resolution mode -diffraction correction -x0.78 viewfinder -14 bit Prime IV engine -crop mode to use da lenses

12-02-2015, 01:52 AM	#73
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by racingsnake One of the top tech russian websites posted a brief article about the upcoming pentax ff. https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/pentax-ff-first-photo/ For those few who dont speak russian the article says that the camera is going to have -36 mp sony sensor -No aliasing filter -5 axis IS -super resolution mode -diffraction correction -x0.78 viewfinder -14 bit Prime IV engine -crop mode to use da lenses That sounds remarkably similar to a certain fake slide. ---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ---------- Originally posted by ffking People seem very determined to put this brand new format issue down to poor english on the part of Ricoh - and yes, there is plenty of that in the teaser - but it does strike me as odd that they should talk so much about innovation if the only selling point they offer is that the camera is going to join what is becoming the norm amongst high-end DSLRs. Obviously, if you're going to buy an off the peg sensor from Sony, you are limited to what they produce, and this is the best reason for believing that the camera will be a conventional FF- but I have measured the rear LCD on the early FF mock-up and it has a 5:4 ratio. Now I know that you can't read across from LCD shape to sensor shape automatically - they might intend histograms or whatever to be below the playback image not to overlay it, for example - but up to now, the rear LCD has been the same shape as the sensor, so it's at least worth giving a moment's thought to, imo - 5x4 is a classic photographic ratio that can still be cropped to 3:2 or whatever you want. I haven't seen a flat on image of the under-glass model LCD, so I can't measure that. Aaaand... the text was updated. No more "SRL", no more "Petnax" (I'll miss that one!), "PENTAX is launching a full frame digital SLR, brand-new format for PENTAX." It's perfectly normal to talk about their rich history, it's actually abnormal not to. IMHO.

12-02-2015, 02:06 AM	#74
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by Kunzite That sounds remarkably similar to a certain fake slide. ---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ---------- Aaaand... the text was updated. No more "SRL", no more "Petnax" (I'll miss that one!), "PENTAX is launching a full frame digital SLR, brand-new format for PENTAX." It's perfectly normal to talk about their rich history, it's actually abnormal not to. IMHO. And who says that they do not read the forums ...

12-02-2015, 02:20 AM	#75
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by Kunzite ---------- Post added 02-12-15 at 10:57 AM ---------- brand-new format for PENTAX." . of course they might have meant to say *'from Pentax'* I did notice too late that they'd changed the script, but thanks for pointing it out - though it is still the case that the rear LCD is 5:4, which is at least interesting, whatever the reason - I await further information, as we all do