"First pics taken with full frame"

bobell69 · 12-11-2015, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

It's indeed interesting that they chose to showcase results with those old lenses first... Because both of them cannot be bought new. A sign that new, updated versions will come? Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense at all to use these instead of the new 24-70 and 70-200mm zooms (from a business standpoint).

The promo page seems to be updated every couple of weeks with a new item. First showing was the Pentax DNA and reference to the LX. This week reference to compatibility with all K mount lenses. Over the next few weeks we will see more topics as they relate to the new camera. Ultimately it will be the makings of a complete brochure I'm sure.

Kunzite · 12-11-2015, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Well, I see I'm not the only one who noticed they are advertising a new camera with discontinued lenses.

Once again, that's the point.

normhead · 12-11-2015, 10:52 AM - **4 Likes**

You guys are too funny, if they release some stupid Sony with 3 lenses, that's like super duper, but Pentax emphasizes there are already 6 million lenses available, and everyone gets all suspicious. The backwards compatibility is a huge upside to this camera. Pentax will sell 10 of these to old guys with old glass for every one they sell to new users just getting into a system who aren't familiar with Pentax. Pentax knows which side their bread is buttered on. It's their way of saying to all those who bought 5Ds and Sony A7s to use their old Pentax glass, "better have another look."

**monochrome** · 12-11-2015, 11:04 AM - **2 Likes**

And to thumb their noses at all the Canon users who cut the aperture levers on those nice old lenses.

kooks · 12-11-2015, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

It's indeed interesting that they chose to showcase results with those old lenses first... Because both of them cannot be bought new. A sign that new, updated versions will come? Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense at all to use these instead of the new 24-70 and 70-200mm zooms (from a business standpoint).

But the article talks about "compatible with all K-mount lenses, such as the FA lenses" .. its impossible to do that with the new lenses.. what they are clearly saying is that even all lenses will work with the FF.. more articles will come that talks about how it behaves with the new lenses.

normhead · 12-11-2015, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

And to thumb their noses at all the Canon users who cut the aperture levers on those nice old lenses.

I was going to say that, but i didn't want to make those old Canon users cry. Who can you sell those old lenses to now?

Kunzite · 12-11-2015, 11:26 AM

To Sony users

normhead · 12-11-2015, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

To Sony users

Good point.

dansamy · 12-11-2015, 12:04 PM

They are definitely trying to appeal to guys & gals with a bag full of classic glass.

pathdoc · 12-11-2015, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by dansamy

guys and gals with a bag full of classic glass

Such as yourself, looking at your signature line.

Mind you, every single lens I have bought secondhand this year (and it's quite an impressive total when I look at it - perhaps too impressive) has been a film-era lens, and I think one of the digitals (DA50/1.8) is also good to go. So I'll just stand here in the ruins of my glasshouse and pick up another stone...

dansamy · 12-11-2015, 12:25 PM

Yeah. I've got cheap consumer glass. Not FA* stuff!

---------- Post added 12-11-15 at 12:25 PM ----------

And eBay calls my name. Way too easy to buy stuff from my phone!!

normhead · 12-11-2015, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by dansamy

Yeah. I've got cheap consumer glass. Not FA* stuff!

---------- Post added 12-11-15 at 12:25 PM ----------

And eBay calls my name. Way too easy to buy stuff from my phone!!

It'll still be great on an FF. Just not as great. Just in case I ever get an FF I bought an FA J-18-35. AN un-surprising lens in that it feels in your hand as cheap looking as the soft pictures it takes. But if I ever do get the FF, it will do until I decide I want something better.

VoiceOfReason · 12-11-2015, 12:54 PM

I currently have 12 through 500 covered (more with the 1.4 AW tc and 1.7 AF adapter). I am good.

Wired · 12-11-2015, 01:47 PM

Very exciting to see this. Looks like the hype machine is slowly starting to leave the station. I'm hoping for news about the all new flash system rumored to be developed for this camera....

wissink · 12-11-2015, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by dcshooter

Those are some pretty "meh" (and low res) images for first shots, but I'm sure we'll see better as the release date approaches.

I remember the DFA 70-200 and DFA 150-450 samples weren't great either.

Not to mention they used 24mm 400 ISO at 1/1600 when they really didn't need to?

12-11-2015, 10:52 AM - 4 Likes	#18
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	You guys are too funny, if they release some stupid Sony with 3 lenses, that's like super duper, but Pentax emphasizes there are already 6 million lenses available, and everyone gets all suspicious. The backwards compatibility is a huge upside to this camera. Pentax will sell 10 of these to old guys with old glass for every one they sell to new users just getting into a system who aren't familiar with Pentax. Pentax knows which side their bread is buttered on. It's their way of saying to all those who bought 5Ds and Sony A7s to use their old Pentax glass, "better have another look." Last edited by normhead; 12-11-2015 at 02:01 PM.

12-11-2015, 12:15 PM	#25
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381 Original Poster	Originally posted by dansamy guys and gals with a bag full of classic glass Such as yourself, looking at your signature line. Mind you, every single lens I have bought secondhand this year (and it's quite an impressive total when I look at it - perhaps too impressive) has been a film-era lens, and I think one of the digitals (DA50/1.8) is also good to go. So I'll just stand here in the ruins of my glasshouse and pick up another stone... Last edited by pathdoc; 12-11-2015 at 12:15 PM. Reason: typo

12-11-2015, 12:48 PM	#27
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by dansamy Yeah. I've got cheap consumer glass. Not FA* stuff! ---------- Post added 12-11-15 at 12:25 PM ---------- And eBay calls my name. Way too easy to buy stuff from my phone!! It'll still be great on an FF. Just not as great. Just in case I ever get an FF I bought an FA J-18-35. AN un-surprising lens in that it feels in your hand as cheap looking as the soft pictures it takes. But if I ever do get the FF, it will do until I decide I want something better. Last edited by normhead; 12-11-2015 at 12:59 PM.

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12-11-2015, 10:27 AM	#16
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by Asahiflex It's indeed interesting that they chose to showcase results with those old lenses first... Because both of them cannot be bought new. A sign that new, updated versions will come? Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense at all to use these instead of the new 24-70 and 70-200mm zooms (from a business standpoint). The promo page seems to be updated every couple of weeks with a new item. First showing was the Pentax DNA and reference to the LX. This week reference to compatibility with all K mount lenses. Over the next few weeks we will see more topics as they relate to the new camera. Ultimately it will be the makings of a complete brochure I'm sure.

12-11-2015, 10:39 AM	#17
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by DeadJohn Well, I see I'm not the only one who noticed they are advertising a new camera with discontinued lenses. Once again, that's the point.

12-11-2015, 11:04 AM - 2 Likes	#19
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	And to thumb their noses at all the Canon users who cut the aperture levers on those nice old lenses.

12-11-2015, 11:14 AM	#20
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by Asahiflex It's indeed interesting that they chose to showcase results with those old lenses first... Because both of them cannot be bought new. A sign that new, updated versions will come? Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense at all to use these instead of the new 24-70 and 70-200mm zooms (from a business standpoint). But the article talks about "compatible with all K-mount lenses, such as the FA lenses" .. its impossible to do that with the new lenses.. what they are clearly saying is that even all lenses will work with the FF.. more articles will come that talks about how it behaves with the new lenses.

12-11-2015, 11:23 AM	#21
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by monochrome And to thumb their noses at all the Canon users who cut the aperture levers on those nice old lenses. I was going to say that, but i didn't want to make those old Canon users cry. Who can you sell those old lenses to now?

12-11-2015, 11:26 AM	#22
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	To Sony users

12-11-2015, 11:34 AM	#23
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Kunzite To Sony users Good point.

12-11-2015, 12:04 PM	#24
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	They are definitely trying to appeal to guys & gals with a bag full of classic glass.

12-11-2015, 12:25 PM	#26
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	Yeah. I've got cheap consumer glass. Not FA* stuff! ---------- Post added 12-11-15 at 12:25 PM ---------- And eBay calls my name. Way too easy to buy stuff from my phone!!

12-11-2015, 12:54 PM	#28
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	I currently have 12 through 500 covered (more with the 1.4 AW tc and 1.7 AF adapter). I am good.

12-11-2015, 01:47 PM	#29
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Very exciting to see this. Looks like the hype machine is slowly starting to leave the station. I'm hoping for news about the all new flash system rumored to be developed for this camera....

12-11-2015, 01:50 PM	#30
wissink Veteran Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: S-ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 609	Originally posted by dcshooter Those are some pretty "meh" (and low res) images for first shots, but I'm sure we'll see better as the release date approaches. I remember the DFA 70-200 and DFA 150-450 samples weren't great either. Not to mention they used 24mm 400 ISO at 1/1600 when they really didn't need to?