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12-12-2015, 04:43 AM   #61
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"First pics taken with full frame"

I reckon this new FF body is going to have interchangeable view finders?
Maybe one will be optical and another EVF?
The changeable view finders were a special feature of the LX... Maybe they are hinting at this by talking about the LX?

Maybe they could have GPS in some and flash control in others and various combinations of options??

Maybe you get two or three viewfinders with the body?

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I think the technology to make digital interchangeable viewfinders would be awfully challenging but it feels like there's one more big surprise coming and it feels like it is in the viewfinder.
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I can see them doing interchangeable focusing screens, but the need for the interchangeable viewfinder has passed with the coming of the tilting rear screen IMO. Besides, they will be keen to retain the weather sealed integrity of the body. Both good reasons for not having it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by foto guy Quote
Don't know why, but Pentax never releases great sample images for their cameras or lenses. Sufficient, but not great.
They want you to think, "I can do better than that once I can get my hands on it!"

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QuoteOriginally posted by pathdoc Quote
I can see them doing interchangeable focusing screens, but the need for the interchangeable viewfinder has passed with the coming of the tilting rear screen IMO. Besides, they will be keen to retain the weather sealed integrity of the body. Both good reasons for not having it.
Certainly, Live View and a tilt monitor screen, not to mention tethering, have reduced the need for interchangeable viewfinders, but not eliminated it entirely, for example where battery life is a concern. I doubt weather sealing is in itself a big enough challenge to not consider it, though. Anyway, I think we've seen enough of the display model to rule it out for this body, but maybe not a future one.
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The pro who needs the interchangeable VF is probably going to have the battery grip fitted and everything charged to the limit before they start, plus spare batteries, and maybe even AC power if they're working anywhere near where it's available. I know just how long a K-5 can run on the internal battery alone.

(ETA was interrupted)

I find it hard to believe that a pro in the field who needed the capability couldn't keep their K-1 alive long enough to complete the shoot.

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I will buy it six months after release when it's half price and they're giving a free lens, grip and flash in the hope of boosting sales of a camera that is already five years too late!l Yes cynical and negative.
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a camera that is already five years too late
'Too late' depends on the specs.

If it was a 12 MP CCD sensor with 9 points autofocus, you would have a case. But if it has the latest technology and advanced features, then while it may be 'late', it will be up-to-date. Hence not 'late' in any important sense.

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I'm surprised Ron isn't here yet to explain. Usually you mention APS-h and he's here immediately.
I know, I wonder what is going on there.

QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
It's a 1.7 or 1.8 crops sensor instead of 1.5,
APS-H is 1.3 crop. 1.7 crop is what the Sigma SD cameras used to use.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jarvyboy Quote
I will buy it six months after release when it's half price and they're giving a free lens, grip and flash in the hope of boosting sales of a camera that is already five years too late!l Yes cynical and negative.
We'll see.

I have a feeling that Ricoh doesn't want to sell millions of these cameras and won't need to do so in order to turn a profit. The 645Z is a camera that sells in the thousands, but has definitely not been sold at half price and has generated a lot of profit for Ricoh. I'm sure they want the same sort of camera with the K-1. Whether or not they get it remains to be seen.
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Yes. The 10-17mm DA fisheye should produce an "interesting" image at 10mm! >180 degrees horizontal before vignetting etc. kills it!
The DA10-17 only covers full frame from about 15mm, where its angle of view matches 10mm on APS-C.

Film @ 15mm



APS-C @10mm



At 10mm and MFD on film you get a very interesting (and quite sharp!) view of the inside of the hood
The rounded corners of the vignette are where there is complete cutaway of the petal hood, so hacking it off will not fix the problem


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So put gold filigree around the inside of the hood and voila, an instant Victorian-era frame, SOOC.
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So put gold filigree around the inside of the hood and voila, an instant Victorian-era frame, SOOC.
Well that sounds like a great idea!
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I can see them doing interchangeable focusing screens, but the need for the interchangeable viewfinder has passed with the coming of the tilting rear screen IMO. Besides, they will be keen to retain the weather sealed integrity of the body. Both good reasons for not having it.
A high magnification bright viewfinder - such as in the LX, is far better than even the EVF in current high end offerings and would be great to have when using manual focus lenses. Having this doesn't preclude the incorporation of a fully articulating rear screen. Of course a wireless coupled screen would be even more innovative.

Unlike the interchangeable viewfinder bodies from Canon, Minolta and Nikon of the same era, Pentax made the LX system weather sealed and production line tested to be so. However, what viewfinders to use is another matter.

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'Too late' depends on the specs.

If it was a 12 MP CCD sensor with 9 points autofocus, you would have a case. But if it has the latest technology and advanced features, then while it may be 'late', it will be up-to-date. Hence not 'late' in any important sense.
Releasing an up-to-date model would make it obsolete. Better release it ahead of the pack.
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Was the weather sealing to the same standard as today, though? I don't think there's anyone who's game to try this out, seeing as failure would necessarily involve bricking an LX - and with no more being made (to our knowledge), this is something nobody wants to do if they can help it.
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