Price of K1 (FF)

zmohie · 12-17-2015, 01:17 PM

I think it may be would be better if the poll is/ What price you will pay for k1/
for me 2200$ not more plus 24-70.70-200.-15-30. it will cost me about 6000$
so please pentax/ricoh be smart and dont go leica way!!!!

virusn3t · 12-17-2015, 01:49 PM

I hope 2000usd to 2300usd as the exchange rate of the USD is bashing againt the MXN, north 2500usd is to close to the D810 price and is gonna be hard to atract new FF buyers, Nikon or Canon users wont be atracted regardless the specs of the Pentax camera at that price range, that said, the maximun amount that im willing to spend is near 2000usd above that i am not going to be an early adopter.

**sbh** · 12-17-2015, 03:06 PM

I guess it's in the middle between the D810 (over 3.000€) and the D750 (under 2.000€). But I wouldn't be surprised if Ricoh would want something like 3.500€. Then they would go for the higher end dirctly next to the Z users.

Pioneer · 12-20-2015, 08:10 PM

Well above $3000. Probably close to $4500. It will come down to earth fairly soon after intro but for early adopters it will be expensive.

dansamy · 12-20-2015, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by Pioneer

Well above $3000. Probably close to $4500. It will come down to earth fairly soon after intro but for early adopters it will be expensive.

If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete.

**monochrome** · 12-20-2015, 09:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by dansamy

If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete.

it doesn't have to compete with anything. It only has to sell the number of units they plan to sell at whatever price they choose to sell them - which will be profitable if they do. It doesn't need to be a D810 to be a successful camera, and it won't be upgraded in 18 months. That fact argues for an aggressive but constant price for a long time, then gradual deals and pricing cuts.

That being said, if history is a guide, it will probably list below $2,900 and street a couple hundred lower than list.

kooks · 12-20-2015, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by dansamy

If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete.

At that price range just a few will adopt the pentax FF system, and there will be even another reason for the rest to move to Canikons/Sony systems... Introduction price needs to be a very very smart move for Pentax if they want to get a market share.. not only thinking about selling the cameras. but also selling the lenses. In February/March when the 150-450 came out it was at around $2500.. NOW it is at $1700 ( some even at $1600 ), this poins how Pentax prices cant be that high in order to pentaxias buy the products.. AT LEAST not so fast.. they need to rebuild the users base, then.. go fancy.

dansamy · 12-20-2015, 10:20 PM

I think if they release an excellent camera at a great price & build some strength within a core user base, they'll position themselves well to maintain a profitable imaging division.

---------- Post added 12-20-15 at 10:22 PM ----------

I don't think a "me too" FF will work in the long run for Pentax. It needs to be Pentax. Not SoCaNikon.

pathdoc · 12-21-2015, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by sbh

I guess it's in the middle between the D810 (over 3.000€) and the D750 (under 2.000€). But I wouldn't be surprised if Ricoh would want something like 3.500€. Then they would go for the higher end dirctly next to the Z users.

No. They'd be taking food out of their own mouths, so to speak, doing that.

Mattox · 12-21-2015, 03:47 AM

It will have to be under $2500 US without a doubt. They have to compete against the market and reel Pentax and other users in. Digital cameras are so similar these days and even with new specs they need to keep that price competitive regardless.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-21-2015, 07:38 AM

I some how expect it above 3000 $€. I don't think they can sell to many of them and Especially not to people from outside the brand. I guess for those the camera should be priced below 2000 $€ since there are many offerings below the top priced models.

Looked at it and above 3000 is a select number of models used by either professional photographers that work fulltime or some older amateurs that are member of some photography club.

price range fullframe camera's

You can have a fullframe for 999€ wich is the same price as for K-3ii.

virusn3t · 12-21-2015, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I some how expect it above 3000 $€. I don't think they can sell to many of them and Especially not to people from outside the brand. I guess for those the camera should be priced below 2000 $€ since there are many offerings below the top priced models.

Looked at it and above 3000 is a select number of models used by either professional photographers that work fulltime or some older amateurs that are member of some photography club.

price range fullframe camera's

You can have a fullframe for 999€ wich is the same price as for K-3ii.

Maybe, but 3000 is on price range of the D810, it must be below that if the specs are similar to the Nikon.

I think 2599.

dreamfoto · 12-22-2015, 07:01 AM

Sony A7 has been around for years. Costs 800. Does all.
Samsung Nx500 does 4k. Nice kit lens included. Costs 500.
Panasonic fz1000 does 4k, features Leica lens and all you would need. And more. Costs 600.
Sigma Dp2m has all the IQ and costs 400.
Fuji Xt10 has the looks and the mojo and costs 750.

Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000!

kooks · 12-22-2015, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by dreamfoto

Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000!

IMO in order to sell a lot of the product and grow their FF market share "fast" the $2000 is the perfect price.. For example the K3ii have the sensor shift technology, GPS, astrotracer.. the new K1 will have that too + articulated screen and ofcourse.. the sensor.. we dont know what the sensor is going to be but if they bring a 36mp sensor to a really attractive price this will help a lot for the camera to catch some market share. IMO Ricoh's strategy is clear, they are giving great bodies at really good prices ( K3: $630, K3ii: $730, KS2: $495 ). To place the K1 at $3000+ price is totally insane ( not because is not worth it but because Pentax actual situation againt Sony/Canikon ).

But ofcourse i could be wrong... i wouldnt expect nothing more than $2400.. and in case that it happens, price will drop fast ( same as happend with the 150-450 that came from $2500 to $1600 in a few months ).

Kunzite · 12-22-2015, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by dreamfoto

Sony A7 has been around for years. Costs 800. Does all.
Samsung Nx500 does 4k. Nice kit lens included. Costs 500.
Panasonic fz1000 does 4k, features Leica lens and all you would need. And more. Costs 600.
Sigma Dp2m has all the IQ and costs 400.
Fuji Xt10 has the looks and the mojo and costs 750.

Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000!

Wow, you managed to include 1 (one) "full frame" camera, and of course not a current model.

View Poll Results: What will be the initial street price?
below 1800	17	6.80%
2000	27	10.80%
2200	53	21.20%
2400	68	27.20%
2600	40	16.00%
2800	31	12.40%
3000	6	2.40%
above 3000	8	3.20%
Voters: 250. You may not vote on this poll

12-22-2015, 07:01 AM	#28
dreamfoto Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: france Photos: Albums Posts: 163	Sony A7 has been around for years. Costs 800. Does all. Samsung Nx500 does 4k. Nice kit lens included. Costs 500. Panasonic fz1000 does 4k, features Leica lens and all you would need. And more. Costs 600. Sigma Dp2m has all the IQ and costs 400. Fuji Xt10 has the looks and the mojo and costs 750. Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000! Last edited by dreamfoto; 12-22-2015 at 07:07 AM.

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12-17-2015, 01:17 PM	#16
zmohie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: egypt Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 435	I think it may be would be better if the poll is/ What price you will pay for k1/ for me 2200$ not more plus 24-70.70-200.-15-30. it will cost me about 6000$ so please pentax/ricoh be smart and dont go leica way!!!!

12-17-2015, 01:49 PM	#17
virusn3t Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 676	I hope 2000usd to 2300usd as the exchange rate of the USD is bashing againt the MXN, north 2500usd is to close to the D810 price and is gonna be hard to atract new FF buyers, Nikon or Canon users wont be atracted regardless the specs of the Pentax camera at that price range, that said, the maximun amount that im willing to spend is near 2000usd above that i am not going to be an early adopter.

12-17-2015, 03:06 PM	#18
sbh Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Black Forest, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 849	I guess it's in the middle between the D810 (over 3.000€) and the D750 (under 2.000€). But I wouldn't be surprised if Ricoh would want something like 3.500€. Then they would go for the higher end dirctly next to the Z users.

12-20-2015, 08:10 PM	#19
Pioneer Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wandering the Streets Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,411	Well above $3000. Probably close to $4500. It will come down to earth fairly soon after intro but for early adopters it will be expensive.

12-20-2015, 08:12 PM	#20
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	Originally posted by Pioneer Well above $3000. Probably close to $4500. It will come down to earth fairly soon after intro but for early adopters it will be expensive. If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete.

12-20-2015, 09:06 PM - 1 Like	#21
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by dansamy If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete. it doesn't have to compete with anything. It only has to sell the number of units they plan to sell at whatever price they choose to sell them - which will be profitable if they do. It doesn't need to be a D810 to be a successful camera, and it won't be upgraded in 18 months. That fact argues for an aggressive but constant price for a long time, then gradual deals and pricing cuts. That being said, if history is a guide, it will probably list below $2,900 and street a couple hundred lower than list.

12-20-2015, 09:17 PM	#22
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by dansamy If they price it that high, even at launch, I doubt they'll sell many. It just won't be able to compete. And it has to compete. At that price range just a few will adopt the pentax FF system, and there will be even another reason for the rest to move to Canikons/Sony systems... Introduction price needs to be a very very smart move for Pentax if they want to get a market share.. not only thinking about selling the cameras. but also selling the lenses. In February/March when the 150-450 came out it was at around $2500.. NOW it is at $1700 ( some even at $1600 ), this poins how Pentax prices cant be that high in order to pentaxias buy the products.. AT LEAST not so fast.. they need to rebuild the users base, then.. go fancy.

12-20-2015, 10:20 PM	#23
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	I think if they release an excellent camera at a great price & build some strength within a core user base, they'll position themselves well to maintain a profitable imaging division. ---------- Post added 12-20-15 at 10:22 PM ---------- I don't think a "me too" FF will work in the long run for Pentax. It needs to be Pentax. Not SoCaNikon.

12-21-2015, 02:58 AM	#24
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by sbh I guess it's in the middle between the D810 (over 3.000€) and the D750 (under 2.000€). But I wouldn't be surprised if Ricoh would want something like 3.500€. Then they would go for the higher end dirctly next to the Z users. No. They'd be taking food out of their own mouths, so to speak, doing that.

12-21-2015, 03:47 AM	#25
Mattox Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 292	It will have to be under $2500 US without a doubt. They have to compete against the market and reel Pentax and other users in. Digital cameras are so similar these days and even with new specs they need to keep that price competitive regardless.

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12-21-2015, 07:38 AM	#26
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	I some how expect it above 3000 $€. I don't think they can sell to many of them and Especially not to people from outside the brand. I guess for those the camera should be priced below 2000 $€ since there are many offerings below the top priced models. Looked at it and above 3000 is a select number of models used by either professional photographers that work fulltime or some older amateurs that are member of some photography club. price range fullframe camera's You can have a fullframe for 999€ wich is the same price as for K-3ii.

12-21-2015, 08:28 AM	#27
virusn3t Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 676	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I some how expect it above 3000 $€. I don't think they can sell to many of them and Especially not to people from outside the brand. I guess for those the camera should be priced below 2000 $€ since there are many offerings below the top priced models. Looked at it and above 3000 is a select number of models used by either professional photographers that work fulltime or some older amateurs that are member of some photography club. price range fullframe camera's You can have a fullframe for 999€ wich is the same price as for K-3ii. Maybe, but 3000 is on price range of the D810, it must be below that if the specs are similar to the Nikon. I think 2599.

12-22-2015, 12:31 PM	#29
kooks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San José, Costa Rica Photos: Albums Posts: 794	Originally posted by dreamfoto Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000! IMO in order to sell a lot of the product and grow their FF market share "fast" the $2000 is the perfect price.. For example the K3ii have the sensor shift technology, GPS, astrotracer.. the new K1 will have that too + articulated screen and ofcourse.. the sensor.. we dont know what the sensor is going to be but if they bring a 36mp sensor to a really attractive price this will help a lot for the camera to catch some market share. IMO Ricoh's strategy is clear, they are giving great bodies at really good prices ( K3: $630, K3ii: $730, KS2: $495 ). To place the K1 at $3000+ price is totally insane ( not because is not worth it but because Pentax actual situation againt Sony/Canikon ). But ofcourse i could be wrong... i wouldnt expect nothing more than $2400.. and in case that it happens, price will drop fast ( same as happend with the 150-450 that came from $2500 to $1600 in a few months ).

12-22-2015, 04:14 PM	#30
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by dreamfoto Sony A7 has been around for years. Costs 800. Does all. Samsung Nx500 does 4k. Nice kit lens included. Costs 500. Panasonic fz1000 does 4k, features Leica lens and all you would need. And more. Costs 600. Sigma Dp2m has all the IQ and costs 400. Fuji Xt10 has the looks and the mojo and costs 750. Given the situation easy to foresee the complete and utter success the K1 is going to be in 2016 priced at $2000! Wow, you managed to include 1 (one) "full frame" camera, and of course not a current model.