The new FX must be below 2K, otherwise ...

dawaylong · 12-25-2015, 10:21 AM

Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale!
Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out!

bertwert · 12-25-2015, 10:23 AM - **1 Like**

Yes, but when it comes out, compare the specs and it will be worth over twice the amount of a D750.
The D750 had a entry price of $2300.

When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely.

dawaylong · 12-25-2015, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

Yes, but when it comes out, compare the specs and it will be worth over twice the amount of a D750.
The D750 had a entry price of $2300.

When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely.

MSRP around 2K5 is fine, but the sale price should be around 2000-2200, otherwise most people must hesitate a lot.

FantasticMrFox · 12-25-2015, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by dawaylong

Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale!
Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out!

a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product?

b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000.

dawaylong · 12-25-2015, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product?

b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000.

I don't expect the MSRP to be below 2K, could be 2699 something.
But in half a year, the street price should be around 2K, otherwise...

Kunzite · 12-25-2015, 10:43 AM - **6 Likes**

The K-1 must be priced below $150, because I found a broken 5D on e-bay for that price. It doesn't matter that I'm comparing a brand new camera at launch price with a broken old model. I'm an internet expert and I'm claiming that Pentax is doomed if they do otherwise!

zzeitg · 12-25-2015, 10:43 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by dawaylong

When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely.

I truly hope that $2400 won't turn into €2700 (or even more) in Europe. I'm fed up with having to pay this special European overcharge.

Kunzite · 12-25-2015, 10:55 AM

The initial estimated price (leaked over the Interned, but nobody noticed

) was lower than €2700. I'm not sure if it's still up to date though.

Imp · 12-25-2015, 11:01 AM

Staph. We don't need another thread about this. Just wait two months. Staph.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-25-2015, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product?

b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000.

On the first one. You can't blaim Nikon for this. Pentax should have come with this camera at the 2014 Photokina and then it would be On the market now for 14 months. Still Pentax has to compete with everyone else in the market. So yes, prices for competitors offerings do influence prices for Pentax products.

disconnekt · 12-25-2015, 12:10 PM

Since we're comparing Pentax FF to Nikon's FF, when the K1 is released it'll probably be priced around $2600, similar to Nikons Df.
Although the price is going to drop after a few months.

**monochrome** · 12-25-2015, 12:16 PM

You're all inhaling. D750. Df. Meh.

Comparison product is whatever is coming to replace a D810. List Price will target a little below D810 replacement, and will be steady longer than we think. They don't need to sell 100,000 of them to be profitable.

normhead · 12-25-2015, 12:31 PM

If you're thinking of a D750, why not just buy a K-3? They are both 24 MP, the K-3 has a faster burst, and more reach using the same lenses. Sure there ae advantage so D750, better AF, slightly better IQ. Since the Pentax FF is at least 36MP, it's in a whole different class than the D750. It's more of a D810, and there are tons of Nikon shooter who prefer a D810 to a D750. Or in short, your analysis is seriously flawed.

The K-3 is fine for wildlife etc. what I'm looking for in the K-1 is more resolution for landscape. And, I've yet to convince myself I even need that. IN many ways a D750, is just a K-3 that costs a lot more money, and for wildlife, is just not a better deal. For every advantage to the D750, there's an equally compelling disadvantage.

Adam · 12-25-2015, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by dawaylong

Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale!
Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out!

Under $2000 seems very unlikely, given what we know so far about the body. While I'm sure the price will be competitive, I think Pentax has other key selling points in mind.

btnapa · 12-25-2015, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by dawaylong

Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale!
Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out!

My guess for price range has been in the low $2K range.

Here is the logic. Now that we are comparing Pentax to Nikon prices, Pentax has always been cheaper than a similarly specified Nikon. For instance, the K3II is at $729 at B@H and Nikon 7200 is at $1,100. Pentax comes in at 66% of the Nikon. Now assuming that the K1 will be compared to the Nikon D810 which had an intro price of $3,300, that would place the 36MP K1 at approx. $2,200. If the K1 ends up having a 42MP sensor, then my guess is that it could be as high as $2,600.

A 42MP Pentax K1 starts competing with the Sony A7RII which had an intro price of $3,200. The Sony has always had better video and being a mirrorless, a lot more lens options and other goodies that Pentax cannot touch. My guess is that if Pentax 42MP starts competing with the Sony, then we might see a 42MP K1 as low as $2,200.

All these calculations and logic aside, my gut feeling is that we will see the K1 below $2K, perhaps at $1,799!

12-25-2015, 10:21 AM	#1
dawaylong Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 33	The new FX must be below 2K, otherwise ... Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale! Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out!

12-25-2015, 12:16 PM	#12
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	You're all inhaling. D750. Df. Meh. Comparison product is whatever is coming to replace a D810. List Price will target a little below D810 replacement, and will be steady longer than we think. They don't need to sell 100,000 of them to be profitable. Last edited by monochrome; 12-25-2015 at 01:51 PM.

12-25-2015, 12:31 PM	#13
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	If you're thinking of a D750, why not just buy a K-3? They are both 24 MP, the K-3 has a faster burst, and more reach using the same lenses. Sure there ae advantage so D750, better AF, slightly better IQ. Since the Pentax FF is at least 36MP, it's in a whole different class than the D750. It's more of a D810, and there are tons of Nikon shooter who prefer a D810 to a D750. Or in short, your analysis is seriously flawed. The K-3 is fine for wildlife etc. what I'm looking for in the K-1 is more resolution for landscape. And, I've yet to convince myself I even need that. IN many ways a D750, is just a K-3 that costs a lot more money, and for wildlife, is just not a better deal. For every advantage to the D750, there's an equally compelling disadvantage. Last edited by normhead; 12-25-2015 at 02:31 PM.

12-25-2015, 01:12 PM	#14
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by dawaylong Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale! Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out! Under $2000 seems very unlikely, given what we know so far about the body. While I'm sure the price will be competitive, I think Pentax has other key selling points in mind. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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12-25-2015, 10:23 AM - 1 Like	#2
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	Yes, but when it comes out, compare the specs and it will be worth over twice the amount of a D750. The D750 had a entry price of $2300. When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely.

12-25-2015, 10:29 AM	#3
dawaylong Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 33 Original Poster	Originally posted by bertwert Yes, but when it comes out, compare the specs and it will be worth over twice the amount of a D750. The D750 had a entry price of $2300. When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely. MSRP around 2K5 is fine, but the sale price should be around 2000-2200, otherwise most people must hesitate a lot.

12-25-2015, 10:38 AM	#4
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by dawaylong Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale! Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out! a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product? b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000.

12-25-2015, 10:42 AM	#5
dawaylong Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 33 Original Poster	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product? b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000. I don't expect the MSRP to be below 2K, could be 2699 something. But in half a year, the street price should be around 2K, otherwise...

12-25-2015, 10:43 AM - 6 Likes	#6
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The K-1 must be priced below $150, because I found a broken 5D on e-bay for that price. It doesn't matter that I'm comparing a brand new camera at launch price with a broken old model. I'm an internet expert and I'm claiming that Pentax is doomed if they do otherwise!

12-25-2015, 10:43 AM - 2 Likes	#7
zzeitg Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: South Bohemia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,017	Originally posted by dawaylong When you look at the poll, most people are saying around $2400 MSRP which seems likely. I truly hope that $2400 won't turn into €2700 (or even more) in Europe. I'm fed up with having to pay this special European overcharge.

12-25-2015, 10:55 AM	#8
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The initial estimated price (leaked over the Interned, but nobody noticed ) was lower than €2700. I'm not sure if it's still up to date though.

12-25-2015, 11:01 AM	#9
Imp Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Washington, DC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,749	Staph. We don't need another thread about this. Just wait two months. Staph.

12-25-2015, 11:28 AM	#10
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox a) The D750 came out one and a half years ago. Are you really comparing street prices for an established camera towards the end of its product cycle with launch prices of a new product? b) According to what a certain Pentax ambassador has been telling us over and over the K1 will be a model aimed at professionals. So don't expect it to be below $2,000. On the first one. You can't blaim Nikon for this. Pentax should have come with this camera at the 2014 Photokina and then it would be On the market now for 14 months. Still Pentax has to compete with everyone else in the market. So yes, prices for competitors offerings do influence prices for Pentax products.

12-25-2015, 12:10 PM	#11
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,699	Since we're comparing Pentax FF to Nikon's FF, when the K1 is released it'll probably be priced around $2600, similar to Nikons Df. Although the price is going to drop after a few months.

12-25-2015, 01:13 PM	#15
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by dawaylong Considering a Nikon D750 at 1400 (gray market), certified sellers around $1800, any price above 2K would kill the sale! Though I still have several lenses, price definitely would be a BIG BIG factor for me to stay or out! My guess for price range has been in the low $2K range. Here is the logic. Now that we are comparing Pentax to Nikon prices, Pentax has always been cheaper than a similarly specified Nikon. For instance, the K3II is at $729 at B@H and Nikon 7200 is at $1,100. Pentax comes in at 66% of the Nikon. Now assuming that the K1 will be compared to the Nikon D810 which had an intro price of $3,300, that would place the 36MP K1 at approx. $2,200. If the K1 ends up having a 42MP sensor, then my guess is that it could be as high as $2,600. A 42MP Pentax K1 starts competing with the Sony A7RII which had an intro price of $3,200. The Sony has always had better video and being a mirrorless, a lot more lens options and other goodies that Pentax cannot touch. My guess is that if Pentax 42MP starts competing with the Sony, then we might see a 42MP K1 as low as $2,200. All these calculations and logic aside, my gut feeling is that we will see the K1 below $2K, perhaps at $1,799!