Focus peaking

**x-country** · 03-01-2016, 11:37 AM

Does anybody know anything about the focus peaking feature in K-1?

I hope that Ricoh has made some improvements like changing color, quick zoom in, split screen etc. That would be great using manual lenses. If not I hope they will in new firmware. They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3.

edgedemon · 03-01-2016, 11:49 AM

Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000

enoeske · 03-01-2016, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by edgedemon

Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000

They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while. My Q-S1 has it. Its on the LCD and not in the viewfinder, though.

jcdoss · 03-01-2016, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by edgedemon

Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000

I'm sure the K-1 will have focus peaking as good as or better than on the K-3 cameras. Edgedemon, my K-x has a quick zoom feature on the rear LCD while using Live View. I'm sure this will also be present on the K-1, since its on every camera since the K-x. Therefore, my NEX will be for sale as soon as I take delivery of the K-1.

Adam · 03-01-2016, 12:53 PM

The focus peaking works just like on all other Pentax bodies. There's definitely room for improvement since even the GR has had multiple zebra patters for a while.

stevebrot · 03-01-2016, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by edgedemon

Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function?

Ummmm, no...

Originally posted by enoeske

They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while.

What he said. There is nothing special about the quick zoom in the various EVF cameras except that several models feature magnification greater than the native sensor resolution using extrapolated (best guess) data to even out the display.

As for the K-1 focus peaking implimentation...I hope it has higher sensitivity (less slop) than the system used on the K-3 or perhaps maybe even tuneable?

Steve

osv · 03-01-2016, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by x-country

Does anybody know anything about the focus peaking feature in K-1?

I hope that Ricoh has made some improvements like changing color, quick zoom in, split screen etc. That would be great using manual lenses. If not I hope they will in new firmware. They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3.

the k-1 has 16x(!) magnification, if you are serious about accurate mf, that's the only way to fly.

**clackers** · 03-01-2016, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by edgedemon

Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000

Then you should have switched several years ago, Edgedemon - even my K-30 (no spring chicken) has this.

**clackers** · 03-01-2016, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by x-country

They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3.

I use manual lenses quite a bit.

The only real difference I appreciate is that my Sony will let you change the colour. The Pentax white doesn't suit when the scene contains bright elements - yellow or red are much nicer.

Having said that,

1. If you turn on the flashing red highlight warning, this can work in conjunction with the focus peaking in a bright scene - you look for where they coincide and fine tune appropriately.

2. Magnification is more dependable anyway. In a high contrast scene, the focus peaking can be optimistic, and in a low contrast scene, it may not display at all!

Ultimately, the split prism focus screen in my K-30 is faster and more reliable than either Live View method, but unfortunately/understandably, the new Heads Up Display stuff in the K-1 means its screen can't be swapped out.

bobell69 · 03-01-2016, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while. My Q-S1 has it. Its on the LCD and not in the viewfinder, though.

Yep, I use it on my K3II all of the time

elementdtlop · 03-01-2016, 09:57 PM

whats the zoom on a k3/k3ii in live view if the k1 is going to be 16x. i forget what the k50 is but im almost positive its less than that. how about the ks-2 or k5 iis

stevebrot · 03-01-2016, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by clackers

2. Magnification is more dependable anyway. In a high contrast scene, the focus peaking can be optimistic, and in a low contrast scene, it may not display at all!

Yep!

Steve

stevebrot · 03-01-2016, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by elementdtlop

whats the zoom on a k3/k3ii in live view

8.3x is full resolution. It will go to 16x.

Steve

**x-country** · 03-02-2016, 12:00 AM

I'm talking peaking using the display of course.

For quick manual focus I'd like to see the whole frame and an enlarged part at the same time. It would also be sweet with a quick way of getting there, one button push and a preset enlarged scale.

mikeSF · 03-02-2016, 12:17 AM

i am pretty thrilled with the focus peaking feature on both my 645Z and the K3II and use it on both routinely. I do not know what features the other brand may have so maybe I do not miss what I do know about.

Not sure what you mean by quick zoom but i recall when i press 'OK' I am fully zoomed in to the center of the field which is good, but to navigate around in larger steps, i zoom out a couple of clicks to move the cursor quicker. I find it very useful but perhaps you are referring to something else?

03-01-2016, 11:37 AM	#1
x-country Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Frösön (Östersund) Posts: 69	Focus peaking Does anybody know anything about the focus peaking feature in K-1? I hope that Ricoh has made some improvements like changing color, quick zoom in, split screen etc. That would be great using manual lenses. If not I hope they will in new firmware. They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3.

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clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by x-country They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3. I use manual lenses quite a bit. The only real difference I appreciate is that my Sony will let you change the colour. The Pentax white doesn't suit when the scene contains bright elements - yellow or red are much nicer. Having said that, 1. If you turn on the flashing red highlight warning, this can work in conjunction with the focus peaking in a bright scene - you look for where they coincide and fine tune appropriately. 2. Magnification is more dependable anyway. In a high contrast scene, the focus peaking can be optimistic, and in a low contrast scene, it may not display at all! Ultimately, the split prism focus screen in my K-30 is faster and more reliable than either Live View method, but unfortunately/understandably, the new Heads Up Display stuff in the K-1 means its screen can't be swapped out. Last edited by clackers; 03-02-2016 at 01:15 AM.

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03-01-2016, 11:49 AM	#2
edgedemon Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: London Photos: Albums Posts: 309	Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000

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enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by edgedemon Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000 They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while. My Q-S1 has it. Its on the LCD and not in the viewfinder, though.

03-01-2016, 12:10 PM	#4
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,757	Originally posted by edgedemon Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000 I'm sure the K-1 will have focus peaking as good as or better than on the K-3 cameras. Edgedemon, my K-x has a quick zoom feature on the rear LCD while using Live View. I'm sure this will also be present on the K-1, since its on every camera since the K-x. Therefore, my NEX will be for sale as soon as I take delivery of the K-1.

03-01-2016, 01:04 PM	#6
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by edgedemon Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? Ummmm, no... Originally posted by enoeske They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while. What he said. There is nothing special about the quick zoom in the various EVF cameras except that several models feature magnification greater than the native sensor resolution using extrapolated (best guess) data to even out the display. As for the K-1 focus peaking implimentation...I hope it has higher sensitivity (less slop) than the system used on the K-3 or perhaps maybe even tuneable? Steve

03-01-2016, 02:20 PM	#7
osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	Originally posted by x-country Does anybody know anything about the focus peaking feature in K-1? I hope that Ricoh has made some improvements like changing color, quick zoom in, split screen etc. That would be great using manual lenses. If not I hope they will in new firmware. They should be inspired by Sony/Fuji/Olympus because their peaking is far better than the peaking in current K-3. the k-1 has 16x(!) magnification, if you are serious about accurate mf, that's the only way to fly.

03-01-2016, 03:57 PM	#8
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by edgedemon Don't you need an EVF for the quick zoom function? If Pentax managed this, Id drop Sony in a heartbeat as Im addicted to the zoom in to focus aids - it's the only reason I have an a6000 Then you should have switched several years ago, Edgedemon - even my K-30 (no spring chicken) has this.

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bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by enoeske They've had auto quick zoom while manually focusing for a while. My Q-S1 has it. Its on the LCD and not in the viewfinder, though. Yep, I use it on my K3II all of the time

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elementdtlop Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 97	whats the zoom on a k3/k3ii in live view if the k1 is going to be 16x. i forget what the k50 is but im almost positive its less than that. how about the ks-2 or k5 iis

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by clackers 2. Magnification is more dependable anyway. In a high contrast scene, the focus peaking can be optimistic, and in a low contrast scene, it may not display at all! Yep! Steve

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by elementdtlop whats the zoom on a k3/k3ii in live view 8.3x is full resolution. It will go to 16x. Steve

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03-02-2016, 12:00 AM	#14
x-country Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Frösön (Östersund) Posts: 69 Original Poster	I'm talking peaking using the display of course. For quick manual focus I'd like to see the whole frame and an enlarged part at the same time. It would also be sweet with a quick way of getting there, one button push and a preset enlarged scale.

03-02-2016, 12:17 AM	#15
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,620	i am pretty thrilled with the focus peaking feature on both my 645Z and the K3II and use it on both routinely. I do not know what features the other brand may have so maybe I do not miss what I do know about. Not sure what you mean by quick zoom but i recall when i press 'OK' I am fully zoomed in to the center of the field which is good, but to navigate around in larger steps, i zoom out a couple of clicks to move the cursor quicker. I find it very useful but perhaps you are referring to something else?