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03-07-2016, 04:49 PM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
Then, there is the 77ltd, which is the size of most brands 50/1.4 (often smaller in fact), making it highly portable, with AF.
Equally effective, but with the strong Pentax drawing style, sharpness and contrast.
The 77mm would probably be my next choice after my Sigma 85mm, assuming it acquits itself well on the new FF sensor. You're giving up a little speed and reach, as well as silent focusing, but the small size is very attractive.


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Im not sure if Pentax is planning for new DFA 85mm f1.4 but I def sure it won't be cheap. I don't care about Manual lens or not. I just care about the price and optical quality. A* 85mm 1.4 seems to be a great choice.
There is a new 85mm F/1.4 coming in 2017. The new lens road map shows a fast aperture med-tele on the list. Probably a new 50mm F/1.4 as well.

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The 77mm would probably be my next choice after my Sigma 85mm, assuming it acquits itself well on the new FF sensor. You're giving up a little speed and reach, as well as silent focusing, but the small size is very attractive.
I have almost bought the 77mm a number of times. With the rebates it was down to $599 at one point. I love the size, but the bokeh is not to my taste. Its fine for studio work though.
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There is a new 85mm F/1.4 coming in 2017. The new lens road map shows a fast aperture med-tele on the list. Probably a new 50mm F/1.4 as well.

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I have almost bought the 77mm a number of times. With the rebates it was down to $599 at one point. I love the size, but the bokeh is not to my taste. Its fine for studio work though.
It will be quite pricy like around $2000. Can't afford that.

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I guess Pentax A* 85mm f1.4 is the best choice if I can buy it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rlatjsrud Quote
It will be quite pricy like around $2000. Can't afford that.

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I guess Pentax A* 85mm f1.4 is the best choice if I can buy it.
The A* would be my top choice if you can find one. Don't discount the Rokinon 85mm F/1.4. Its not a bad lens for the price. The 135mm Rokinon is excellent. Better than Canons 135L.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
There is a new 85mm F/1.4 coming in 2017. The new lens road map shows a fast aperture med-tele on the list. Probably a new 50mm F/1.4 as well.

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I have almost bought the 77mm a number of times. With the rebates it was down to $599 at one point. I love the size, but the bokeh is not to my taste. Its fine for studio work though.
Are you sure that it is a 85mm? I thought about whether it will be a new 85/1.4. But I would say 85 is rather a "short" tele, not a "medium" tele...
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Would you be willing to consider 77mm focal length, which is close to 85mm?

If you're OK with that, then check out the FA77 f1.8 Limited. Truly a lens designed with the needs and ideals of portraiture photography in mind. It's superbly sharp (in a way that favours portraiture), has lovely bokeh, gorgeous colours, superb micro contrast.

But over and above all that, it's got what we in the Pentax community call "pixie dust". There's a certain magical touch it gives to images - very hard to put in words but it's there, and certainly noticeable, and makes a picture stand out in a very special way that's hard to replicate otherwise.
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I can confirm that the Sigma is a great piece of glass.. love that lens, it is sharp, silent, fast AF, bokeh is great.. and is modern. You wont regret it. 77mm is another option, but IMO, is getting old and lack of some modern features that would be nice to have in the upcoming lenses ( coating, af motor, etc )

This is part of my work with the Sigma


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QuoteOriginally posted by kooks Quote
I can confirm that the Sigma is a great piece of glass.. love that lens, it is sharp, silent, fast AF, bokeh is great.. and is modern. You wont regret it. 77mm is another option, but IMO, is getting old and lack of some modern features that would be nice to have in the upcoming lenses ( coating, af motor, etc )

This is part of my work with the Sigma


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Wow, great examples of what the Sigma 85mm lens can do. You certainly have mastered that lens.

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Wow, great examples of what the Sigma 85mm lens can do. You certainly have mastered that lens.
Thanks Fenwoodian .. , still working on it... I cant wait to try it with the K1, the bokeh is going to be reaaaaally nice..
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Thanks Fenwoodian .. , still working on it... I cant wait to try it with the K1, the bokeh is going to be reaaaaally nice..
It is a lens that really doesn't get the credit it deserves. Better than the 85L. Fast AF. A friend uses one on her 5DII and it is stellar on a FF body.
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It is a lens that really doesn't get the credit it deserves. Better than the 85L. Fast AF. A friend uses one on her 5DII and it is stellar on a FF body.
I've often been surprised that the Sigma 85 doesn't have more fans on here. It's not like Pentax users are swimming in a sea of options at 85mm.
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I've often been surprised that the Sigma 85 doesn't have more fans on here. It's not like Pentax users are swimming in a sea of options at 85mm.
If it said Pentax on the barrel it would be a completely different story. There are a lot of users here who care more about the name than the performance.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
If it said Pentax on the barrel it would be a completely different story. There are a lot of users here who care more about the name than the performance.

You're overlooking a more mundane reason, Winder.


The FA77 ... a smaller and more affordable lens that gives quality near to the traditional 85mm lenses - including Pentax's own FA* 85.


That Jun Hirakawa designed both the 77 and the 85 mean that the colours and rendering are familiar.
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The FA77 ... a smaller and more affordable
The 77mm has only become more affordable in the last year. The FA* 85mm is a great lens as well, but not in production. Its a little softer wide open and shows a little more CA which is typical for a film era lens.
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The 77mm has only become more affordable in the last year. The FA* 85mm is a great lens as well, but not in production. Its a little softer wide open and shows a little more CA which is typical for a film era lens.

You're missing the point, Winder.


The FA* 85 is not in production anymore due in part to the FA77 becoming available and being preferred by buyers.

That's not a slur on the performance of bigger lenses, it's just that for many people (yourself included, IIRC) form factor came to matter and the Limiteds are valued for what they can do at their size and weight.

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