"we’ve seen a lot sharper from cameras like the Nikon D810"

slip · 03-10-2016, 06:22 PM

Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography
Another bias opinion?

Randy

**macman24054** · 03-10-2016, 06:36 PM

Let the bashing begin

MadMathMind · 03-10-2016, 06:40 PM

So he takes one random image of a harshly lit subject a mile away in a ton of atmospheric haze that destroys the contrast and makes conclusions from that?

I'm sure he has seen sharper images from the Nikon. I'm sure we'll see a lot sharper images from the K-1 than this too.

osv · 03-10-2016, 07:00 PM

the comments are hilarious:

"John, your comparison of DR is based on the DxOMark results of the Pentax K-01, a 16 mp. APS-C, mirrorless camera from 2012"

so john is a moron, but pentax left itself open to criticism by shooting really long-distance landscapes with zoom lenses, at weak apertures.

the lake shot for instance, 53mm at f/4.5, with a zoom? it looks decent, but seriously?

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/k-1/ex/img/ex-pic04.jpg

Ole · 03-10-2016, 07:00 PM

Look here instead. Not shot through haze and even if Ricoh restricted us to publish images 2000 px wide it is quite apparent that the image quality is nothing to complain about.

John's comments about pixel shift are also off the mark. He seems to think that the K-3 II is representative for the K-1. It's not. The K-1 is much faster. So what is his agenda? It isn't objective information for sure.

rawr · 03-10-2016, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by slip

Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography

Another random Internet gas-bag. Nothing to see here.

Quote:

"If, however, you’re more of a sports/action type of shooter, especially if you like to print big, this may not be the camera for you."

Duh. It's not a sports camera. The D810 is not ideal for those scenarios either.

C_Jones · 03-10-2016, 07:27 PM

There seems to be some negative statements that have no basis. For example, where the two images are shown, one w/o pixel shift and with pixel shift, I could see the difference right away (w/o having to look at the crop). Also, saying that it will be more suited for still or slow moving conditions and not sports/ action oriented images has no basis, my K-3II does that without a problem. The comment about price comparison/worth is not legible, in that it does not refer to the excellent value of the features, structure, and style of the K-1.

**monochrome** · 03-10-2016, 07:57 PM - **1 Like**

I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out.

**boriscleto** · 03-10-2016, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out.

As long as they continue to get ad revenue from Canikon.

Ole · 03-10-2016, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out.

Maybe he'll cave if and when he gets to hold and use a K-1! These internet "reviewers" who form an opinion without even touching the equipment can be a bit tiring.

Davidparis · 03-10-2016, 11:47 PM

There will always be haters. I pay them no mind.

infoomatic · 03-11-2016, 01:25 AM

I am not even sure this guy knows what a 100% crop is ...

flugfiske · 03-11-2016, 04:42 AM

In my opinion, it is rather pointless to make any conclusions about pre prod. models. The only thing that tells us what really is going on between Ca-Ni-Pe-So... is when we test them side by side with a third-party lens, same model on every camera. that is how we can eliminate lens differences. Of course, If I shoot with Canon (thank god I'm not

) it is natural that I talk on behalf of Canon. It's natural in human behavior. I think we are littlebit sensitive about things that are said about Pentax., especially the new K-1.
I do not think, that K-1 is meant to be competitor to D-810, it has different strengths. And the price, it is huge advantage

Let them talk...

dafbp · 03-11-2016, 05:57 AM - **1 Like**

Is it normal to compare 2 cameras using an image from only one of them? Nowhere did I see the same image taken by another camera.
This in addition to the previous comments about the technical quality of the demonstration pics Pentax released.

It takes 2 to tango, and it takes 2 equal images taken under similar conditions to compare cameras (I know you know that, just saying).

And why would you use a FF for tiny (VGA) web pictures? 36M compressed into .3M and compared. Same as saying a 747 is a plane, no difference to the Wright brothers' flyer...

jsherman999 · 03-11-2016, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by slip

Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography
Another bias opinion?

Randy

Filled with misunderstandings and misrepresentation. DIY guy has just set himself up as someone to ignore.

03-10-2016, 06:22 PM	#1
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	"we’ve seen a lot sharper from cameras like the Nikon D810" Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography Another bias opinion? Randy

03-10-2016, 06:40 PM	#3
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	So he takes one random image of a harshly lit subject a mile away in a ton of atmospheric haze that destroys the contrast and makes conclusions from that? I'm sure he has seen sharper images from the Nikon. I'm sure we'll see a lot sharper images from the K-1 than this too. Last edited by MadMathMind; 03-10-2016 at 07:11 PM.

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osv Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So Cal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,080	the comments are hilarious: "John, your comparison of DR is based on the DxOMark results of the Pentax K-01, a 16 mp. APS-C, mirrorless camera from 2012" so john is a moron, but pentax left itself open to criticism by shooting really long-distance landscapes with zoom lenses, at weak apertures. the lake shot for instance, 53mm at f/4.5, with a zoom? it looks decent, but seriously? http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/k-1/ex/img/ex-pic04.jpg

03-10-2016, 07:00 PM	#5
Ole Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,409	Look here instead. Not shot through haze and even if Ricoh restricted us to publish images 2000 px wide it is quite apparent that the image quality is nothing to complain about. John's comments about pixel shift are also off the mark. He seems to think that the K-3 II is representative for the K-1. It's not. The K-1 is much faster. So what is his agenda? It isn't objective information for sure.

03-10-2016, 07:00 PM	#6
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by slip Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography Another random Internet gas-bag. Nothing to see here. Quote: "If, however, you’re more of a sports/action type of shooter, especially if you like to print big, this may not be the camera for you." Duh. It's not a sports camera. The D810 is not ideal for those scenarios either.

03-10-2016, 07:27 PM	#7
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	There seems to be some negative statements that have no basis. For example, where the two images are shown, one w/o pixel shift and with pixel shift, I could see the difference right away (w/o having to look at the crop). Also, saying that it will be more suited for still or slow moving conditions and not sports/ action oriented images has no basis, my K-3II does that without a problem. The comment about price comparison/worth is not legible, in that it does not refer to the excellent value of the features, structure, and style of the K-1.

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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out.

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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by monochrome I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out. As long as they continue to get ad revenue from Canikon.

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Ole Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,409	Originally posted by monochrome I wonder how long these guys will hold out insisting the K-1 isn't good enough once the full rez FW 1.0 images start coming out. Maybe he'll cave if and when he gets to hold and use a K-1! These internet "reviewers" who form an opinion without even touching the equipment can be a bit tiring.

03-10-2016, 11:47 PM	#11
Davidparis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 290	There will always be haters. I pay them no mind.

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infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	I am not even sure this guy knows what a 100% crop is ...

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flugfiske Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Nurmijärvi Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 140	In my opinion, it is rather pointless to make any conclusions about pre prod. models. The only thing that tells us what really is going on between Ca-Ni-Pe-So... is when we test them side by side with a third-party lens, same model on every camera. that is how we can eliminate lens differences. Of course, If I shoot with Canon (thank god I'm not ) it is natural that I talk on behalf of Canon. It's natural in human behavior. I think we are littlebit sensitive about things that are said about Pentax., especially the new K-1. I do not think, that K-1 is meant to be competitor to D-810, it has different strengths. And the price, it is huge advantage Let them talk...

03-11-2016, 05:57 AM - 1 Like	#14
dafbp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 233	Is it normal to compare 2 cameras using an image from only one of them? Nowhere did I see the same image taken by another camera. This in addition to the previous comments about the technical quality of the demonstration pics Pentax released. It takes 2 to tango, and it takes 2 equal images taken under similar conditions to compare cameras (I know you know that, just saying). And why would you use a FF for tiny (VGA) web pictures? 36M compressed into .3M and compared. Same as saying a 747 is a plane, no difference to the Wright brothers' flyer...

03-11-2016, 06:45 AM	#15
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by slip Pentax K1 sample images have been released showing off the Pixel Shift Resolution - DIY Photography Another bias opinion? Randy Filled with misunderstandings and misrepresentation. DIY guy has just set himself up as someone to ignore.