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11-29-2016, 01:26 PM   #46
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It'd be nice to have something wider than 28mm sometimes, though.
I mean... For $450, nothing beats 28-105.
It does look like Ricoh has a "Large aperture ultra wide single focus lens" planed for 2017. I am gonna get that.

28-105 + 31mm + "Large aperture ultra wide" + "Large aperture medium telephoto" is probably gonna be my final setup.

Ricoh does have a "Wide angle single focus lens" planed for early 2017. But I don't think it is gonna replace 31 since it didn't say "Large apeture".
It might be a 35/2.8 or something.

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I mean... For $450, nothing beats 28-105.
It does look like Ricoh has a "Large aperture ultra wide single focus lens" planed for 2017. I am gonna get that.

28-105 + 31mm + "Large aperture ultra wide" + "Large aperture medium telephoto" is probably gonna be my final setup.

Ricoh does have a "Wide angle single focus lens" planed for early 2017. But I don't think it is gonna replace 31 since it didn't say "Large apeture".
It might be a 35/2.8 or something.
I expect they'll try and replace the FA 35/2 before they tackle the FA Limited series. I have the 28-105, but it just feels...awkward in my hands. I always either want something longer, in which case I grab my 70-200, or wider, in which case, I don't take the shot. Or I don't have enough light.
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Do you think there is a reason for a ultra wide to be large aperture?
I mean... I never use anything larger than F5.6 when I do landscape.
Why don't they just do a smaller aperture lens, and you know, make it smaller and cheaper.
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Do you think there is a reason for a ultra wide to be large aperture?
I mean... I never use anything larger than F5.6 when I do landscape.
Why don't they just do a smaller aperture lens, and you know, make it smaller and cheaper.
Because people use ultra-wides for things other than simple landscapes? If you don't, then they make a regular wide-angle, like the DA 15mm Limited f/4.

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Because people use ultra-wides for things other than simple landscapes? If you don't, then they make a regular wide-angle, like the DA 15mm Limited f/4.
Oh okay...
But the DA 15mm is not FF.
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Oh okay...
But the DA 15mm is not FF.
Right, but they'll make one for FF eventually. For now, they have something that'll work for night landscapes, for stars, for unusual portraiture, for some product photography, etc. If you need something lighter now, maybe something like the FA 20mm will sate you until they get around to a proper solution?
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Right, but they'll make one for FF eventually. For now, they have something that'll work for night landscapes, for stars, for unusual portraiture, for some product photography, etc. If you need something lighter now, maybe something like the FA 20mm will sate you until they get around to a proper solution?
Thanks for the suggestion.
But ultra wide is way down in my shopping list. It is probably the last lens I buy.
I think by that time, Pentax would have a good lens line up.
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Well that's helpful. You seem insistent that this lens is terrible, I thought you'd have actual experience with it.
I never said it was terrible. I didn't even say that it was bad. I said it was "when you look at the 24-70mm offering from Canon, Nikon, & Sony, the rebadged Tamron 24-70mm is not that impressive". I have used the Tamron on a Nikon D750. I have not used the Pentax version on my K-1.

How do you come up with the idea that I'm "insistent that the lens is terrible?" I said in a previous post that the lens "Did not impress me." I said it was not on the same level as the fantastic D-FA* 70-200mm and I hope the Ricoh bring us a D-FA* 24-70mm that is on that level.

What did I say that implies the lens is terrible?

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QuoteOriginally posted by lithedreamer Quote
It'd be nice to have something wider than 28mm sometimes, though.
Definitely, but I think I can wait until a wide ff autofocus prime comes out.

Plus, I am fortunate that I still have the K3 with wide options, and some of those are passable on the K1 with some pp and/or judicious cropping.
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