Da* 85

MikeyBugs95 · 02-18-2019, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Wild Mark

If the DFA*85 is better than the FA*85 then it will be one of the best lenses ever. Even with the new DFA*85 in play, the FA*85 will still be a very acceptable lens.

And maybe drop in price just a little bit. And maybe the older Sigma 85 too. At least that's what I'm kinda hoping.

Wild Mark · 02-18-2019, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

And maybe drop in price just a little bit. And maybe the older Sigma 85 too. At least that's what I'm kinda hoping.

Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+

KX-Digital · 02-18-2019, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Wild Mark

Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+

That would be comparatively cheap. Convert €1500 to dollar and you may have a possible price, then double that and convert to Euro for the price here. It could beasily be $2000 or $2500 though.

Still, i cannot judge the coming DFA* 85 but whatever the DFA* will be, the FA* will still be an amazing lens. It was specifically optimised for portrait though and for general use the A* 85 was even better.

However I fear that if it grows as much as the FA 50/1.4 grew to become the DFA*50/1.4 the DFA* 85 will weigh 3kg. That is too much for me.

**UncleVanya** · 02-18-2019, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by 5r82

This guy would do the same with the cheapest 85mm lens on the market and that is Samyang 85mm. He obviously knows how to take photos and has beautiful models. In other words, upgrade your skills not necessarily your gear.

While that's true, he and I talked a bit about the switch from the fa 77 to the fa* 85. He said it was a really good change, while he liked the 77, it took more post processing to get what he wanted the shots to look like than the 85. Equipment can be a factor in efficiency.

---------- Post added 02-18-19 at 06:00 AM ----------

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Chris is the master of this lens (even though he now shoots a *cough* $ony).

I hadn't talked to him lately didn't know this. I see a few shots in December with the Sony and a bunch in 2019 with Fuji.

Last edited by UncleVanya; 02-18-2019 at 04:01 AM.

Sandy Hancock · 02-18-2019, 04:29 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I see a few shots in December with the Sony and a bunch in 2019 with Fuji.

Yes, Fuji too.
For what it's worth, I like the images he makes with the Fuji, but not the Sony. At his level gear *does* matter.
His work with the FA*85, and the FA Limiteds before that, was outstanding.

**UncleVanya** · 02-18-2019, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Yes, Fuji too.
For what it's worth, I like the images he makes with the Fuji, but not the Sony. At his level gear *does* matter.
His work with the FA*85, and the FA Limiteds before that, was outstanding.

The few shots I saw weren't enough for me to tell, but the Fuji shots did seem pretty good.

Medex · 02-18-2019, 07:20 AM

As an owner of FA* 85 I really like this lens. Can't compare to FA77.
More portraits here:
Pentax 85mm f/1.4

Wheatfield · 02-18-2019, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by MikeBenson

The DA * 85 has been $1000 for years.

Is a new one coming ?

There has never been a DA* 85mm lens.

RonHendriks1966 · 02-18-2019, 09:47 AM - **1 Like**

The FA* is a great lens.

DogLover · 02-18-2019, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Wild Mark

Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+

I think $1500 would be the max. As good as the new 50 is for $1K I just think they'd have a hard time charging more than 1500.

**pres589** · 02-18-2019, 10:50 AM

There was a Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG as well which seemed quite good. Not as good as the FA*85 but nothing to sneeze at.

**clackers** · 02-18-2019, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by pres589

There was a Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG as well which seemed quite good. Not as good as the FA*85 but nothing to sneeze at.

I've got that Sigma, and it's very good. It's more modern than the FA*85 and I suspect is better.

But the new DFA* 85 should be outstanding, given the performance of the first model of this series, the DFA* 'Fat Fifty'.

Sandy Hancock · 02-18-2019, 04:11 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

the DFA* 'Fat Fifty'.

I should have Trade Marked that term. I think I was the first to coin it - at least in this Forum
Now we all wait for the Weighty Eighty TM

**catfishjohn** · 02-18-2019, 04:22 PM - **5 Likes**

Thanks to the fine work of C. Rankin I will finally get the long desired *85. I showed his photos to my wife and told her they were taken with that lens. She was not impressed until I told her all his models are from local nursing homes and none under 60 years old. She said get that lens right away.

**UncleVanya** · 02-18-2019, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by catfishjohn

Thanks to the fine work of C. Rankin I will finally get the long desired *85. I showed his photos to my wife and told her they were taken with that lens. She was not impressed until I told her all his models are from local nursing homes and none under 60 years old. She said get that lens right away.

I'm crying and not showing this to my wife. I have shown her his stuff, but as is the truth I was first attracted to his work by his fantastic landscapes and non glamour shots. I've shown her his sword coast treasures Flickr album.

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02-18-2019, 02:10 AM	#16
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by Wild Mark If the DFA85 is better than the FA85 then it will be one of the best lenses ever. Even with the new DFA85 in play, the FA85 will still be a very acceptable lens. And maybe drop in price just a little bit. And maybe the older Sigma 85 too. At least that's what I'm kinda hoping.

02-18-2019, 02:11 AM	#17
Wild Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Newcastle Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,954	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 And maybe drop in price just a little bit. And maybe the older Sigma 85 too. At least that's what I'm kinda hoping. Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+

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KX-Digital Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe, Benelux, Zeeuwsch-Vlaanderen, Terneuzen Posts: 26	Originally posted by Wild Mark Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+ That would be comparatively cheap. Convert €1500 to dollar and you may have a possible price, then double that and convert to Euro for the price here. It could beasily be $2000 or $2500 though. Still, i cannot judge the coming DFA* 85 but whatever the DFA* will be, the FA* will still be an amazing lens. It was specifically optimised for portrait though and for general use the A* 85 was even better. However I fear that if it grows as much as the FA 50/1.4 grew to become the DFA50/1.4 the DFA 85 will weigh 3kg. That is too much for me.

02-18-2019, 03:55 AM	#19
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	Originally posted by 5r82 This guy would do the same with the cheapest 85mm lens on the market and that is Samyang 85mm. He obviously knows how to take photos and has beautiful models. In other words, upgrade your skills not necessarily your gear. While that's true, he and I talked a bit about the switch from the fa 77 to the fa* 85. He said it was a really good change, while he liked the 77, it took more post processing to get what he wanted the shots to look like than the 85. Equipment can be a factor in efficiency. ---------- Post added 02-18-19 at 06:00 AM ---------- Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Chris is the master of this lens (even though he now shoots a cough $ony). I hadn't talked to him lately didn't know this. I see a few shots in December with the Sony and a bunch in 2019 with Fuji. Last edited by UncleVanya; 02-18-2019 at 04:01 AM.

02-18-2019, 04:29 AM - 1 Like	#20
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by UncleVanya I see a few shots in December with the Sony and a bunch in 2019 with Fuji. Yes, Fuji too. For what it's worth, I like the images he makes with the Fuji, but not the Sony. At his level gear does matter. His work with the FA*85, and the FA Limiteds before that, was outstanding.

02-18-2019, 06:00 AM	#21
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Yes, Fuji too. For what it's worth, I like the images he makes with the Fuji, but not the Sony. At his level gear does matter. His work with the FA*85, and the FA Limiteds before that, was outstanding. The few shots I saw weren't enough for me to tell, but the Fuji shots did seem pretty good.

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Medex Pentaxian Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vilnius Posts: 1,020	As an owner of FA* 85 I really like this lens. Can't compare to FA77. More portraits here: Pentax 85mm f/1.4

02-18-2019, 09:20 AM	#23
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by MikeBenson The DA * 85 has been $1000 for years. Is a new one coming ? There has never been a DA* 85mm lens.

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RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	The FA* is a great lens.

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DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by Wild Mark Maybe ...... it will depend on the price of the new benchmark - expect $1500+ I think $1500 would be the max. As good as the new 50 is for $1K I just think they'd have a hard time charging more than 1500.

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02-18-2019, 10:50 AM	#26
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	There was a Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG as well which seemed quite good. Not as good as the FA*85 but nothing to sneeze at.

02-18-2019, 03:23 PM	#27
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by pres589 There was a Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG as well which seemed quite good. Not as good as the FA85 but nothing to sneeze at. I've got that Sigma, and it's very good. It's more modern than the FA85 and I suspect is better. But the new DFA* 85 should be outstanding, given the performance of the first model of this series, the DFA* 'Fat Fifty'.

02-18-2019, 04:11 PM - 3 Likes	#28
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by clackers the DFA* 'Fat Fifty'. I should have Trade Marked that term. I think I was the first to coin it - at least in this Forum Now we all wait for the Weighty Eighty TM

02-18-2019, 04:22 PM - 5 Likes	#29
catfishjohn Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Arkansas Posts: 137	Thanks to the fine work of C. Rankin I will finally get the long desired *85. I showed his photos to my wife and told her they were taken with that lens. She was not impressed until I told her all his models are from local nursing homes and none under 60 years old. She said get that lens right away.

02-18-2019, 09:01 PM	#30
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	Originally posted by catfishjohn Thanks to the fine work of C. Rankin I will finally get the long desired *85. I showed his photos to my wife and told her they were taken with that lens. She was not impressed until I told her all his models are from local nursing homes and none under 60 years old. She said get that lens right away. I'm crying and not showing this to my wife. I have shown her his stuff, but as is the truth I was first attracted to his work by his fantastic landscapes and non glamour shots. I've shown her his sword coast treasures Flickr album.