why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

Racer X 69 · 05-07-2020, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

In other words "a truck driver".

Drove my first big truck in my late teens. Drove all the rolling stock the power company had during the 30 years I worked in that business. I was a truck driver for 5 years, 800,000 miles.

Nowhere near bubba or redneck.

Yes sir.

MarkJerling · 05-07-2020, 11:35 PM - **5 Likes**

So, after google being no help I dug out my 1915 Audels Automobile Guide. It seems that, although Henry Ford did not get the memo, by 1915 the conventional pedal placement had already been somehow standardised by many car manufacturers.

**microlight** · 05-08-2020, 12:01 AM - **2 Likes**

Direction indicators; yep, as Mark says, European cars have the stalk on the left regardless of handedness of drive. The last car I had that had the indicator stalk on the right was a mid-70s Rover 2200 (P6 design), replaced by a Ford Cortina mk 4 in the early 80s.

From the Cortina, through two Rover SD1s, a Vauxhall Carlton (the UK version of the European Opel Omega) and four Mercs - see previous discussion!

- all direction stalks have been on the left.

And all since the Carlton have been automatic...

dbs · 05-08-2020, 12:48 AM - **1 Like**

The " Stalk " position.....well it up to the car manufacturer where they wish to place it.....pot luck..or.quality street suprise,they don't want to be predictable now do they.

Bertie are you bogging Uni=mogs as well

Dave

**StiffLegged** · 05-08-2020, 02:33 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

I always wondered, on right hand drive cars, do they reverse the layout of the pedals? On left hand drive, accelerator on the right, brake in the middle, clutch on the left.How about right hand drive?

Actually, the steering is reversed too: clockwise turn of the wheel steers you left while anticlockwise steers you right. At least, watching tourists from Arkansas in their first moments in a RHD car would make you think so... (safer to hire a taxi, dudes)

**savoche** · 05-08-2020, 03:06 AM - **4 Likes**

Good to see that not all governments are chock full of grumpy old men

From a press conference by the Finnish governemt:

**savoche** · 05-08-2020, 03:08 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by StiffLegged

Actually, the steering is reversed too: clockwise turn of the wheel steers you left while anticlockwise steers you right. At least, watching tourists from Arkansas in their first moments in a RHD car would make you think so... (safer to hire a taxi, dudes)

Only in Australia, I'm sure, being upside down and all that.

MarkJerling · 05-08-2020, 03:40 AM - **2 Likes**

Here's one for Racer. It seems articulated trucks have been around since at least 1915 too.

MarkJerling · 05-08-2020, 03:40 AM - **1 Like**

And 4x4s!

MarkJerling · 05-08-2020, 03:43 AM - **1 Like**

Oh, and following our discussion of 11-cog Shimano Ultegra:

**StiffLegged** · 05-08-2020, 05:54 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

And 4x4s!

One and one half ton with gardener’s body? A big chap, don’t make ‘em like that any more.

**savoche** · 05-08-2020, 06:52 AM - **5 Likes**

I think this would have qualified someone for an Excellence in Big Brain Thinking award.

Skytebane - Shooting range
Gravlund - Cemetery

lesmore49 · 05-08-2020, 07:11 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

So, after google being no help I dug out my 1915 Audels Automobile Guide. It seems that, although Henry Ford did not get the memo, by 1915 the conventional pedal placement had already been somehow standardised by many car manufacturers.

Having an Audel's Guide that old is quite something. Until I saw your post, I had completely forgotten about Audel's. My dad had one, I think it went back to the '30's and as a kid I recall reading through it. It had sections about old car manufacturer's such as Pierce Arrow, Hudson, Packard, as well as Chevy, Ford etc.

Unfortunately it has gone a long time ago. Think he probably got rid of it back in the '70's when my parents moved to another house. I would of liked to have had it.

tim60 · 05-08-2020, 12:06 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by bertwert

I was driving along the highway, with light rain - not enough to keep the wipers running fully, but enough to need them. The car in front kept indicating at random intervals.

If you found that distracting why didn’t you cut a bend in the road, going cross-country, and getting in front. You Unimog should be able to manage that manoeuvre.

tim60 · 05-08-2020, 12:10 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Oh they existed, back in the early days. Technology advanced to the point that everything was done from one stick, and the range boxes were operated by levers on the knob.

Ultimately the autoshift gearbox replaced most truck transmissions. Still a “manual” gearbox, but the shifting is done with a computer and air servos.

Under the driver’s accelerator foot.

Sounds like it had an autostoker.

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05-07-2020, 07:36 PM	#77821
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,068	Originally posted by Parallax In other words "a truck driver". Drove my first big truck in my late teens. Drove all the rolling stock the power company had during the 30 years I worked in that business. I was a truck driver for 5 years, 800,000 miles. Nowhere near bubba or redneck. Yes sir.

05-08-2020, 12:01 AM - 2 Likes	#77823
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	Direction indicators; yep, as Mark says, European cars have the stalk on the left regardless of handedness of drive. The last car I had that had the indicator stalk on the right was a mid-70s Rover 2200 (P6 design), replaced by a Ford Cortina mk 4 in the early 80s. From the Cortina, through two Rover SD1s, a Vauxhall Carlton (the UK version of the European Opel Omega) and four Mercs - see previous discussion! - all direction stalks have been on the left. And all since the Carlton have been automatic...

05-08-2020, 12:48 AM - 1 Like	#77824
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	The " Stalk " position.....well it up to the car manufacturer where they wish to place it.....pot luck..or.quality street suprise,they don't want to be predictable now do they. Bertie are you bogging Uni=mogs as well Dave

05-08-2020, 02:33 AM - 3 Likes	#77825
StiffLegged Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,620	Originally posted by Racer X 69 I always wondered, on right hand drive cars, do they reverse the layout of the pedals? On left hand drive, accelerator on the right, brake in the middle, clutch on the left.How about right hand drive? Actually, the steering is reversed too: clockwise turn of the wheel steers you left while anticlockwise steers you right. At least, watching tourists from Arkansas in their first moments in a RHD car would make you think so... (safer to hire a taxi, dudes)

05-08-2020, 03:06 AM - 4 Likes	#77826
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Good to see that not all governments are chock full of grumpy old men From a press conference by the Finnish governemt:

05-08-2020, 03:08 AM - 3 Likes	#77827
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by StiffLegged Actually, the steering is reversed too: clockwise turn of the wheel steers you left while anticlockwise steers you right. At least, watching tourists from Arkansas in their first moments in a RHD car would make you think so... (safer to hire a taxi, dudes) Only in Australia, I'm sure, being upside down and all that.

05-08-2020, 05:54 AM - 2 Likes	#77831
StiffLegged Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,620	Originally posted by MarkJerling And 4x4s! One and one half ton with gardener’s body? A big chap, don’t make ‘em like that any more.

05-08-2020, 06:52 AM - 5 Likes	#77832
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	I think this would have qualified someone for an Excellence in Big Brain Thinking award. Skytebane - Shooting range Gravlund - Cemetery

05-08-2020, 07:11 AM - 2 Likes	#77833
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,343	Originally posted by MarkJerling So, after google being no help I dug out my 1915 Audels Automobile Guide. It seems that, although Henry Ford did not get the memo, by 1915 the conventional pedal placement had already been somehow standardised by many car manufacturers. Having an Audel's Guide that old is quite something. Until I saw your post, I had completely forgotten about Audel's. My dad had one, I think it went back to the '30's and as a kid I recall reading through it. It had sections about old car manufacturer's such as Pierce Arrow, Hudson, Packard, as well as Chevy, Ford etc. Unfortunately it has gone a long time ago. Think he probably got rid of it back in the '70's when my parents moved to another house. I would of liked to have had it.

05-08-2020, 12:06 PM - 2 Likes	#77834
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,745	Originally posted by bertwert I was driving along the highway, with light rain - not enough to keep the wipers running fully, but enough to need them. The car in front kept indicating at random intervals. If you found that distracting why didn’t you cut a bend in the road, going cross-country, and getting in front. You Unimog should be able to manage that manoeuvre.

05-08-2020, 12:10 PM - 1 Like	#77835
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,745	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Oh they existed, back in the early days. Technology advanced to the point that everything was done from one stick, and the range boxes were operated by levers on the knob. Ultimately the autoshift gearbox replaced most truck transmissions. Still a “manual” gearbox, but the shifting is done with a computer and air servos. Under the driver’s accelerator foot. Sounds like it had an autostoker.