why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

tim60 · 01-12-2022, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

They say it does not need a flywheel. But, tolerances seem to be the bugbear. The thing requires incredibly tight tolerances. They say the computer modeling suggests they could get 4,500HP from a 250-pound three-rotor aviation version. At cost of around $50,000.
They say a car version would cost as little to produce as any other car engine due to the simplicity.

Time will tell.

Since engines that burn stuff are going out of fashion in many countries unlikely to have a solid enough market to stimulate the investment.

**rod_grant** · 01-13-2022, 01:45 AM - **2 Likes**

If you are talking boots that last and last...

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Not cheap; dearer than I can afford (AU$595).
But Aussie stockmen love them and I have seen testimonials of many decades of wear.

MarkJerling · 01-13-2022, 01:55 AM - **1 Like**

Burnished Macquarie Boot | R.M.Williams®

NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell.

slartibartfast01 · 01-13-2022, 02:00 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Burnished Macquarie Boot | R.M.Williams

NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell.

Free shipping though

---------- Post added 01-13-22 at 09:04 AM ----------

https://www.rmwilliams.com/uk/accessories/men/other-accessories/earbud-pouch...=en_GB&start=1
The boots look like better value than this

MarkJerling · 01-13-2022, 02:15 AM

They sure do. LOL

MarkJerling · 01-13-2022, 02:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tim60

Would you even consider buying a $20 Ford?

Depends what a thing is.

I'll take a Ford for free!

tim60 · 01-13-2022, 05:10 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Burnished Macquarie Boot | R.M.Williams®

NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell.

Language. You do realise they need to pay the school fees of the kids in the family.

bertwert · 01-13-2022, 06:01 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by rod_grant

If you are talking boots that last and last...

International FAQS. Frequently Asked Questions at R.M.Williams®

Not cheap; dearer than I can afford (AU$595).
But Aussie stockmen love them and I have seen testimonials of many decades of wear.

At that point you're buying a name as well as the craftsmanship. Like buying a Tissot or a Rolex - both have quality Swiss movements, but one brand name commands a much higher price.

Personally I favour function over fashion/brand.

Parallax · 01-13-2022, 06:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

A flywheel doesn't increase torque.

It stores energy.

From Wikipedia:

A useful part of internal combustion engines.

Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel

But turning the flywheel uses energy.
I think I get it though, sort of............
Back in the old days, when I started as a printer, the letterpress days, I ran various presses. They all had flywheels. The hand-fed platen presses had HUGE flywheels. That I understood as some parts of the cycle of the press required substantially more force than others and the flywheel provided the momentum to carry it through that part of a cycle.

bertwert · 01-13-2022, 06:18 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Parallax

But turning the flywheel uses energy.
I think I get it though, sort of............
Back in the old days, when I started as a printer, the letterpress days, I ran various presses. They all had flywheels. The hand-fed platen presses had HUGE flywheels. That I understood as some parts of the cycle of the press required substantially more force than others and the flywheel provided the momentum to carry it through that part of a cycle.

It's like a flash capacitor - the camera/flash battery doesn't have enough power to illuminate the flash at such a bright level instantaneously, so the capacitor builds up storage of power and lets it out all at once.

robtcorl · 01-13-2022, 06:44 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell.

$4,000 for a coffee maker? Double bloody hell.

**savoche** · 01-13-2022, 10:17 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by robtcorl

I have a Swedish friend, he doesn't seem bullish at all, pretty humble in fact.

Well, no, that's not the one. And I can tell you it's not your Finnish friend, either.

**savoche** · 01-13-2022, 10:19 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

I'll take a Ford for free!

I agree! Who'd pay for a Ford?!

robtcorl · 01-13-2022, 10:21 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by savoche

Well, no, that's not the one. And I can tell you it's not your Finnish friend, either.

Shirley you weren't referring to my friend Ivan.

**savoche** · 01-13-2022, 10:30 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by robtcorl

Shirley you weren't referring to my friend Ivan.

I'm afraid I can't comment on that

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01-12-2022, 11:47 PM	#94846
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Originally posted by MarkJerling They say it does not need a flywheel. But, tolerances seem to be the bugbear. The thing requires incredibly tight tolerances. They say the computer modeling suggests they could get 4,500HP from a 250-pound three-rotor aviation version. At cost of around $50,000. They say a car version would cost as little to produce as any other car engine due to the simplicity. Time will tell. Since engines that burn stuff are going out of fashion in many countries unlikely to have a solid enough market to stimulate the investment.

01-13-2022, 01:45 AM - 2 Likes	#94847
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	If you are talking boots that last and last... International FAQS. Frequently Asked Questions at R.M.Williams® Not cheap; dearer than I can afford (AU$595). But Aussie stockmen love them and I have seen testimonials of many decades of wear.

01-13-2022, 01:55 AM - 1 Like	#94848
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	Burnished Macquarie Boot \| R.M.Williams® NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell.

01-13-2022, 02:00 AM - 3 Likes	#94849
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by MarkJerling Burnished Macquarie Boot \| R.M.Williams NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell. Free shipping though ---------- Post added 01-13-22 at 09:04 AM ---------- https://www.rmwilliams.com/uk/accessories/men/other-accessories/earbud-pouch...=en_GB&start=1 The boots look like better value than this

01-13-2022, 02:15 AM	#94850
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	They sure do. LOL

01-13-2022, 02:30 AM - 1 Like	#94851
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	Originally posted by tim60 Would you even consider buying a $20 Ford? Depends what a thing is. I'll take a Ford for free!

01-13-2022, 05:10 AM - 1 Like	#94852
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Originally posted by MarkJerling Burnished Macquarie Boot \| R.M.Williams® NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell. Language. You do realise they need to pay the school fees of the kids in the family.

01-13-2022, 06:01 AM - 3 Likes	#94853
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by rod_grant If you are talking boots that last and last... International FAQS. Frequently Asked Questions at R.M.Williams® Not cheap; dearer than I can afford (AU$595). But Aussie stockmen love them and I have seen testimonials of many decades of wear. At that point you're buying a name as well as the craftsmanship. Like buying a Tissot or a Rolex - both have quality Swiss movements, but one brand name commands a much higher price. Personally I favour function over fashion/brand.

01-13-2022, 06:16 AM - 1 Like	#94854
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Racer X 69 A flywheel doesn't increase torque. It stores energy. From Wikipedia: A useful part of internal combustion engines. Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel But turning the flywheel uses energy. I think I get it though, sort of............ Back in the old days, when I started as a printer, the letterpress days, I ran various presses. They all had flywheels. The hand-fed platen presses had HUGE flywheels. That I understood as some parts of the cycle of the press required substantially more force than others and the flywheel provided the momentum to carry it through that part of a cycle.

01-13-2022, 06:18 AM - 3 Likes	#94855
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by Parallax But turning the flywheel uses energy. I think I get it though, sort of............ Back in the old days, when I started as a printer, the letterpress days, I ran various presses. They all had flywheels. The hand-fed platen presses had HUGE flywheels. That I understood as some parts of the cycle of the press required substantially more force than others and the flywheel provided the momentum to carry it through that part of a cycle. It's like a flash capacitor - the camera/flash battery doesn't have enough power to illuminate the flash at such a bright level instantaneously, so the capacitor builds up storage of power and lets it out all at once.

01-13-2022, 06:44 AM - 6 Likes	#94856
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Originally posted by MarkJerling NZ$845!!!!! Bloody hell. $4,000 for a coffee maker? Double bloody hell.

01-13-2022, 10:17 AM - 2 Likes	#94857
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by robtcorl I have a Swedish friend, he doesn't seem bullish at all, pretty humble in fact. Well, no, that's not the one. And I can tell you it's not your Finnish friend, either.

01-13-2022, 10:19 AM - 4 Likes	#94858
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by MarkJerling I'll take a Ford for free! I agree! Who'd pay for a Ford?!

01-13-2022, 10:21 AM - 4 Likes	#94859
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Originally posted by savoche Well, no, that's not the one. And I can tell you it's not your Finnish friend, either. Shirley you weren't referring to my friend Ivan.

01-13-2022, 10:30 AM - 2 Likes	#94860
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by robtcorl Shirley you weren't referring to my friend Ivan. I'm afraid I can't comment on that