K-3 review - The Phoblographer

**Ash** · 11-07-2013, 10:08 PM - **1 Like**

This may be old news, but Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer test ran the K-3 back in July and reported his experience as a Nikonian with the K-3 paired with a 43 Ltd.
He basically says he likes it but was partial with regards to the ergonomics and UI (simply because he's so used to Nikon dSLRs).
First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer

**rbefly** · 11-08-2013, 04:18 AM

Thanks for posting, Ash. You're right, he doesn't give the camera much of a workout, but (rightly) points out the sturdy build, WR and improved AF points, selectable AA and image quality. The sample photos tell the story best!
Ron

ChrisA · 11-08-2013, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by rbefly

The sample photos tell the story best!
Ron

Quite noisy for only ISO 400

fuzzyfelt30 · 11-08-2013, 08:18 AM

Thanks for finding that one....but surely it's November 7th, not July 11th that he posted the review - being as it is an American blog and they say the date the wrong way round

Chrisgampat · 11-08-2013, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Ash

This may be old news, but Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer test ran the K-3 back in July and reported his experience as a Nikonian with the K-3 paired with a 43 Ltd.
He basically says he likes it but was partial with regards to the ergonomics and UI (simply because he's so used to Nikon dSLRs).
First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer

Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer here. I'd like to offer some corrections here.

Back in July we did not test run the K3 because the K3 was announced in October: Pentax's K-3 Gets Announced; Comes in Black and Silver - The Phoblographer

Additionally, in no place in our post (First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer) do we state that this is our review of the camera. This is evident in many places where we state,

"We’ve been spending a bit of time with the camera so far, and we have to say that it has a lot going for it, but there are some things that are irking us a bit."

"So far we’re really liking the images that we can get from the Pentax K3."

"We’re going to have to do a lot more tests with the autofocus, high ISO image quality, and ease of use in the field to ensure that can give it a proper run through."

A first impressions post has to do with getting quite literally, our first impressions. This is not a review and our posts are clearly labelled a review.

Thanks for reading.

Parallax · 11-08-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Chrisgampat

Additionally, in no place in our post (First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer) do we state that this is our review of the camera. This is evident in many places where we state,

.

Originally posted by Chrisgampat

This is not a review and our posts are clearly labelled a review.

Just out of curiosity, could you explain what the difference is between a "review" and handling/using something and then publishing your opinion, thoughts, and observations.

Chrisgampat · 11-08-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

.Just out of curiosity, could you explain what the difference is between a "review" and handling and using something and then publishing your opinion, thoughts, and observations.

I sure can.

A first impressions post is designed to give a short preview of what we think after we've been using the camera, light, lens or anything else for a little bit of time. So how does this change over time you say?

- Our full reviews have a full list of pros and cons

- Our feelings on the ergonomics may change after we use the item for a long time

- Build quality and what happens to the item changes as time goes on in the review. For example, we plan on running the camera and a weather sealed lens under water to show off how tough it is. We didn't do that in the first impressions post.

- Autofocus performance isn't fully tested in real life situations, and we want to test the focusing in a variety of ways that we haven't done yet for the full review.

- Our image quality analysis of cameras goes deeper into the raw file versatility, high iso performance, and more.

- We also offer significantly more image samples in various different situations.

- Lastly we sum up our findings and recommend items for the unit being reviewed.

I really hope this helps.

Parallax · 11-08-2013, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Chrisgampat

I really hope this helps.

Not really. The OP called what you did a review, which by common definition, it is.

Quote:

1re·view noun \ri-ˈvyü\
: an act of carefully looking at or examining the quality or condition of something or someone : examination or inspection

: a report that gives someone's opinion about the quality of a book, performance, product, etc.

: a magazine filled mostly with reviews and articles that describe the writer's thoughts or opinions about a subject

Quote:

"We’ve been spending a bit of time with the camera so far, and we have to say that it has a lot going for it, but there are some things that are irking us a bit"
"So far we’re really liking the images that we can get from the Pentax K3."

Opinion

Quote:

The front of the camera isn’t exactly devoid of controls either. Along the left side is where you’ll find an AF/MF switch, AF mode selector, raw/JPEG, PC port, and pop up flash. Plus this is also where a couple of the ports are for connectivity.

Facts discerned as the result of an examination or inspection.

Quote:

Autofocus performance isn't fully tested in real life situations, and we want to test the focusing in a variety of ways that we haven't done yet for the full review.[/HL]

"Full" review. Clarifying or emphasizing that this is a less than full review.

I don't mean to in any was disparage you, or your writings, which are well done and insightful, but frankly I'm confused by you having apparently joined just to argue semantics about the use of a single word. The issue of the July date had already been addressed prior to your post.

**jbinpg** · 11-08-2013, 02:28 PM

Thanks for jumping in, Chris, and also for the article in question. I for one took your article as a first impressions review only.

Jack

Parallax · 11-08-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by jbinpg

............... I for one took your article as a first impressions review only.

Jack

As did I. A first impressions review.

Chrisgampat · 11-08-2013, 03:23 PM

Thanks for your inquiry folks. But the reason why I jumped into this one is because some folks think that we posted a full review. It's happened before specifically coming from this site. And therefore people then think that we haven't gone into our full in-depth review.

To clear the confusion, I need to come in the fix the error...semantics or not. Think of it from a business standpoint.

Parallax · 11-08-2013, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Chrisgampat

To clear the confusion, I need to come in the fix the error...semantics or not. Think of it from a business standpoint.

Fair enough. That certainly seems reasonable and we look forward to the review.

Chrisgampat · 11-08-2013, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Fair enough. That certainly seems reasonable and we look forward to the review.

I appreciate it kindly. If i may, this is how I shot the product images for the post. The gear can be applied to anything, including Pentax. Useful Photography Tip #72: Mimic the Look of Window Light By Bouncing a Flash at a Window Shade - The Phoblographer

I'll be testing the K-3 with studio lights actually. Pentax is sending two more lenses over to me to test with the K-3.

panoguy · 11-08-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Chrisgampat

I appreciate it kindly. If i may, this is how I shot the product images for the post. The gear can be applied to anything, including Pentax. Useful Photography Tip #72: Mimic the Look of Window Light By Bouncing a Flash at a Window Shade - The Phoblographer

That is inspired and inspirational flashwork! I can't count the number of times I've wanted to get that look during the long, dark, grey winters of Ontario.

**Ash** · 11-08-2013, 06:22 PM

Good work Chris, and I appreciate it is not an extensive review, but more a personal account of the K-3. I didn't consider the semantics crucial to getting the message across that someone from the blog had published some interesting findings on their experience with the K-3.

Anyway, thanks for it and look forward to your input after receiving the lenses from Pentax.

11-07-2013, 10:08 PM - 1 Like	#1
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	K-3 review - The Phoblographer This may be old news, but Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer test ran the K-3 back in July and reported his experience as a Nikonian with the K-3 paired with a 43 Ltd. He basically says he likes it but was partial with regards to the ergonomics and UI (simply because he's so used to Nikon dSLRs). First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer

11-08-2013, 04:18 AM	#2
rbefly Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Photos: Albums Posts: 2,030	Thanks! Thanks for posting, Ash. You're right, he doesn't give the camera much of a workout, but (rightly) points out the sturdy build, WR and improved AF points, selectable AA and image quality. The sample photos tell the story best! Ron

11-08-2013, 02:01 PM	#8
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Chrisgampat I really hope this helps. Not really. The OP called what you did a review, which by common definition, it is. Quote: 1re·view noun \ri-ˈvyü\ : an act of carefully looking at or examining the quality or condition of something or someone : examination or inspection : a report that gives someone's opinion about the quality of a book, performance, product, etc. : a magazine filled mostly with reviews and articles that describe the writer's thoughts or opinions about a subject Quote: "We’ve been spending a bit of time with the camera so far, and we have to say that it has a lot going for it, but there are some things that are irking us a bit" "So far we’re really liking the images that we can get from the Pentax K3." Opinion Quote: The front of the camera isn’t exactly devoid of controls either. Along the left side is where you’ll find an AF/MF switch, AF mode selector, raw/JPEG, PC port, and pop up flash. Plus this is also where a couple of the ports are for connectivity. Facts discerned as the result of an examination or inspection. Quote: Autofocus performance isn't fully tested in real life situations, and we want to test the focusing in a variety of ways that we haven't done yet for the full review.[/HL] "Full" review. Clarifying or emphasizing that this is a less than full review. I don't mean to in any was disparage you, or your writings, which are well done and insightful, but frankly I'm confused by you having apparently joined just to argue semantics about the use of a single word. The issue of the July date had already been addressed prior to your post. Last edited by Parallax; 11-08-2013 at 02:44 PM.

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11-08-2013, 05:36 AM	#3
ChrisA Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 393	Originally posted by rbefly The sample photos tell the story best! Ron Quite noisy for only ISO 400

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fuzzyfelt30 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 112	Thanks for finding that one....but surely it's November 7th, not July 11th that he posted the review - being as it is an American blog and they say the date the wrong way round

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Chrisgampat New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4	Originally posted by Ash This may be old news, but Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer test ran the K-3 back in July and reported his experience as a Nikonian with the K-3 paired with a 43 Ltd. He basically says he likes it but was partial with regards to the ergonomics and UI (simply because he's so used to Nikon dSLRs). First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer Chris Gampat of the Phoblographer here. I'd like to offer some corrections here. Back in July we did not test run the K3 because the K3 was announced in October: Pentax's K-3 Gets Announced; Comes in Black and Silver - The Phoblographer Additionally, in no place in our post (First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer) do we state that this is our review of the camera. This is evident in many places where we state, "We’ve been spending a bit of time with the camera so far, and we have to say that it has a lot going for it, but there are some things that are irking us a bit." "So far we’re really liking the images that we can get from the Pentax K3." "We’re going to have to do a lot more tests with the autofocus, high ISO image quality, and ease of use in the field to ensure that can give it a proper run through." A first impressions post has to do with getting quite literally, our first impressions. This is not a review and our posts are clearly labelled a review. Thanks for reading.

11-08-2013, 01:32 PM	#6
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Chrisgampat Additionally, in no place in our post (First Impressions: Pentax K3 - The Phoblographer) do we state that this is our review of the camera. This is evident in many places where we state, . Originally posted by Chrisgampat This is not a review and our posts are clearly labelled a review. Just out of curiosity, could you explain what the difference is between a "review" and handling/using something and then publishing your opinion, thoughts, and observations.

11-08-2013, 01:37 PM	#7
Chrisgampat New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4	Originally posted by Parallax .Just out of curiosity, could you explain what the difference is between a "review" and handling and using something and then publishing your opinion, thoughts, and observations. I sure can. A first impressions post is designed to give a short preview of what we think after we've been using the camera, light, lens or anything else for a little bit of time. So how does this change over time you say? - Our full reviews have a full list of pros and cons - Our feelings on the ergonomics may change after we use the item for a long time - Build quality and what happens to the item changes as time goes on in the review. For example, we plan on running the camera and a weather sealed lens under water to show off how tough it is. We didn't do that in the first impressions post. - Autofocus performance isn't fully tested in real life situations, and we want to test the focusing in a variety of ways that we haven't done yet for the full review. - Our image quality analysis of cameras goes deeper into the raw file versatility, high iso performance, and more. - We also offer significantly more image samples in various different situations. - Lastly we sum up our findings and recommend items for the unit being reviewed. I really hope this helps.

11-08-2013, 02:28 PM	#9
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Thanks for jumping in, Chris, and also for the article in question. I for one took your article as a first impressions review only. Jack

11-08-2013, 02:31 PM	#10
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by jbinpg ............... I for one took your article as a first impressions review only. Jack As did I. A first impressions review.

11-08-2013, 03:23 PM	#11
Chrisgampat New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4	Thanks for your inquiry folks. But the reason why I jumped into this one is because some folks think that we posted a full review. It's happened before specifically coming from this site. And therefore people then think that we haven't gone into our full in-depth review. To clear the confusion, I need to come in the fix the error...semantics or not. Think of it from a business standpoint.

11-08-2013, 03:29 PM	#12
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Chrisgampat To clear the confusion, I need to come in the fix the error...semantics or not. Think of it from a business standpoint. Fair enough. That certainly seems reasonable and we look forward to the review.

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Chrisgampat New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4	Originally posted by Parallax Fair enough. That certainly seems reasonable and we look forward to the review. I appreciate it kindly. If i may, this is how I shot the product images for the post. The gear can be applied to anything, including Pentax. Useful Photography Tip #72: Mimic the Look of Window Light By Bouncing a Flash at a Window Shade - The Phoblographer I'll be testing the K-3 with studio lights actually. Pentax is sending two more lenses over to me to test with the K-3.

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panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Originally posted by Chrisgampat I appreciate it kindly. If i may, this is how I shot the product images for the post. The gear can be applied to anything, including Pentax. Useful Photography Tip #72: Mimic the Look of Window Light By Bouncing a Flash at a Window Shade - The Phoblographer That is inspired and inspirational flashwork! I can't count the number of times I've wanted to get that look during the long, dark, grey winters of Ontario.

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Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920 Original Poster	Good work Chris, and I appreciate it is not an extensive review, but more a personal account of the K-3. I didn't consider the semantics crucial to getting the message across that someone from the blog had published some interesting findings on their experience with the K-3. Anyway, thanks for it and look forward to your input after receiving the lenses from Pentax.