Bad news: Flucard delayed till February

**monochrome** · 11-14-2013, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

So all of you who have a K-3 have to wait for some of its features to be activated in February?

I think Ricoh should make that up for you, Somehow.

Personally, I doubt I would be able to display the patience that some of you do.

You are joking, right?

The FluCard isn't a feature of the K3 - it is a $100 accessory. As such, the accessory is apparently (per Ricoh's statement on the website) in such high demand that they need to build up a MUCH larger inventory before they begin shipping (since, as you no doubt know, camera gear is generally not made in continuous runs - it is made in batch runs, stored, and then sold down from stock).

If unexpectedly high demand is Ricoh's biggest Pentax problem we have nothing to complain about any more.

Last edited by monochrome; 11-14-2013 at 02:09 PM.

**Eric Auer** · 11-14-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

You are joking, right?

The FluCard isn't a feature of the K3 - it is a $100 accessory. As such, the accessory is apparently (per Ricoh's statement on the website) in such high demand that they need to build up a MUCH larger inventory before they begin shipping (since, as you no doubt know, camera gear is generally not made in continuous runs - it is made in batch runs, stored, and then sold down from stock).

If unexpectedly high demand is Ricoh's biggest Pentax problem we have nothing to complain about any more.

Take a deep breath.

The camera was designed to take advantage of it.
Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....?

Good lord with you Fan Kids......

bxf · 11-14-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Take a deep breath.

The camera was designed to take advantage of it.
Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....?

Good lord with you Fan Kids......

I really doubt that too many K-3 buyers would have deferred their purchase if this bit of info had been made available previously.

**LaurenOE** · 11-14-2013, 02:31 PM - **2 Likes**

LOL. My biggest problem is whether to buy another K3 tomorrow, or wait until Black Friday.

I can wait on the FLU card.

**monochrome** · 11-14-2013, 02:56 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Take a deep breath.

The camera was designed to take advantage of it.
Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....?

Good lord with you Fan Kids......

I, sir, am decidedly NOT a "fan kid", which you would know if you have read my consistently critical posts about Pentax over these many years. However, describing the correct business response to unanticipated demand for an accessory as a business failure, and irresponsibly making a negative statement in the form of an interrogative such as you did is most certainly trollish.

Your presumption of K3 buyers' expectations is off-the-mark and your suggestion that Pentax "owes" a K3 buyer anything for the delay is just wrong.

Paul Hunt · 11-14-2013, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

What's really sick is the way the entire etymology of computer geekdom is bulit around infection. I sit on a User Council for my Firm's Technology Development Group. We build and release qpplication "Capsules" designed to "restore, maintain or improve total system health" and "systemic integrity."

Gaahhhh.

Blame that on Microbe-soft.

tzeentchiangod · 11-14-2013, 03:25 PM

if PK tether can be updated to include the K-3 in the meantime, I'm content to wait.

**RobA_Oz** · 11-14-2013, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Seems to me Ricoh is not content to release something that isn't up to the high standards they set for their products. If it isn't what they want, they fix it before they sell it.

I like that.

So do I. I'd rather wait until they get it right: there'll be enough to work with in the K-3 to keep me occupied for the next few months, anyway.

Vylen · 11-14-2013, 03:40 PM

I'm interested in the FLUcard for macro and stuff but I've been living without it in the first place so I can't exactly miss what I never had.

Besides, I'm just really stoked having a usable live view compared to the K20D!

derekkite · 11-14-2013, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Take a deep breath.

The camera was designed to take advantage of it.
Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....?

Good lord with you Fan Kids......

I think that they should make up for the fact that I don't have a 560mm lens. They didn't send me one, could have something to do with not ordering one.

**RobA_Oz** · 11-14-2013, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Paul Hunt

Blame that on Microbe-soft.

Hey, it's not a bug, it's a feature...

Seriously, Microsoft isn't the only OS-maker with security issues, although it is the one with the most, probably by a very long way, although Android can't be that far behind.

azimuthal · 11-14-2013, 04:08 PM

when people were talking about how great it was that Ricoh decided to charge people more for this feature and require a specific sd card always in the camera for it to work, i figured it would get delayed, then the first implementation would be less than ideal, then a year later after some revisions it would rival what other companies build into their cameras.

maybe I am just a pessimist, but it takes some skill to spin this into an advantage for the user. to me personally, it is rather meaningless and i won't sing the praises of a wifi sd card or built-in wifi, but to some it seems to matter.

kenyee · 11-14-2013, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by azimuthal

then a year later after some revisions it would rival what other companies build into their cameras.

we can only hope it means 802.11ac...

**boriscleto** · 11-14-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by kenyee

we can only hope it means 802.11ac...

All this means is that demand exceeds supply.

normhead · 11-14-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

The camera was designed to take advantage of it.
Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....?

Good lord with you Fan Kids......

Ya, I guess they should have delayed the launch of the camera until the FLUcard is ready… then you would have whined and called the K-3 vapourware.

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11-14-2013, 02:04 PM	#31
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Corto-PA So all of you who have a K-3 have to wait for some of its features to be activated in February? I think Ricoh should make that up for you, Somehow. Personally, I doubt I would be able to display the patience that some of you do. You are joking, right? The FluCard isn't a feature of the K3 - it is a $100 accessory. As such, the accessory is apparently (per Ricoh's statement on the website) in such high demand that they need to build up a MUCH larger inventory before they begin shipping (since, as you no doubt know, camera gear is generally not made in continuous runs - it is made in batch runs, stored, and then sold down from stock). *If unexpectedly high demand* is Ricoh's biggest Pentax problem we have nothing to complain about any more.** Last edited by monochrome; 11-14-2013 at 02:09 PM.

11-14-2013, 02:17 PM	#32
Eric Auer Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by monochrome You are joking, right? The FluCard isn't a feature of the K3 - it is a $100 accessory. As such, the accessory is apparently (per Ricoh's statement on the website) in such high demand that they need to build up a MUCH larger inventory before they begin shipping (since, as you no doubt know, camera gear is generally not made in continuous runs - it is made in batch runs, stored, and then sold down from stock). *If unexpectedly high demand* is Ricoh's biggest Pentax problem we have nothing to complain about any more.** Take a deep breath. The camera was designed to take advantage of it. Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....? Good lord with you Fan Kids......

11-14-2013, 02:26 PM	#33
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by Corto-PA Take a deep breath. The camera was designed to take advantage of it. Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....? Good lord with you Fan Kids...... I really doubt that too many K-3 buyers would have deferred their purchase if this bit of info had been made available previously.

11-14-2013, 02:31 PM - 2 Likes	#34
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	LOL. My biggest problem is whether to buy another K3 tomorrow, or wait until Black Friday. I can wait on the FLU card.

11-14-2013, 02:56 PM - 1 Like	#35
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Corto-PA Take a deep breath. The camera was designed to take advantage of it. Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....? Good lord with you Fan Kids...... I, sir, am decidedly NOT a "fan kid", which you would know if you have read my consistently critical posts about Pentax over these many years. However, describing the correct business response to unanticipated demand for an accessory as a business failure, and irresponsibly making a negative statement in the form of an interrogative such as you did is most certainly trollish. Your presumption of K3 buyers' expectations is off-the-mark and your suggestion that Pentax "owes" a K3 buyer anything for the delay is just wrong.

11-14-2013, 03:02 PM	#36
Paul Hunt Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 81	Originally posted by monochrome What's really sick is the way the entire etymology of computer geekdom is bulit around infection. I sit on a User Council for my Firm's Technology Development Group. We build and release qpplication "Capsules" designed to "restore, maintain or improve total system health" and "systemic integrity." Gaahhhh. Blame that on Microbe-soft.

11-14-2013, 03:25 PM	#37
tzeentchiangod Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 34	if PK tether can be updated to include the K-3 in the meantime, I'm content to wait.

11-14-2013, 03:30 PM	#38
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by monochrome Seems to me Ricoh is not content to release something that isn't up to the high standards they set for their products. If it isn't what they want, they fix it before they sell it. I like that. So do I. I'd rather wait until they get it right: there'll be enough to work with in the K-3 to keep me occupied for the next few months, anyway.

11-14-2013, 03:40 PM	#39
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	I'm interested in the FLUcard for macro and stuff but I've been living without it in the first place so I can't exactly miss what I never had. Besides, I'm just really stoked having a usable live view compared to the K20D!

11-14-2013, 03:52 PM	#40
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by Corto-PA Take a deep breath. The camera was designed to take advantage of it. Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....? Good lord with you Fan Kids...... I think that they should make up for the fact that I don't have a 560mm lens. They didn't send me one, could have something to do with not ordering one.

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11-14-2013, 04:04 PM	#41
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Paul Hunt Blame that on Microbe-soft. Hey, it's not a bug, it's a feature... Seriously, Microsoft isn't the only OS-maker with security issues, although it is the one with the most, probably by a very long way, although Android can't be that far behind.

11-14-2013, 04:08 PM	#42
azimuthal Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: reno Posts: 70	when people were talking about how great it was that Ricoh decided to charge people more for this feature and require a specific sd card always in the camera for it to work, i figured it would get delayed, then the first implementation would be less than ideal, then a year later after some revisions it would rival what other companies build into their cameras. maybe I am just a pessimist, but it takes some skill to spin this into an advantage for the user. to me personally, it is rather meaningless and i won't sing the praises of a wifi sd card or built-in wifi, but to some it seems to matter.

11-14-2013, 04:35 PM	#43
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by azimuthal then a year later after some revisions it would rival what other companies build into their cameras. we can only hope it means 802.11ac...

11-14-2013, 04:52 PM	#44
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by kenyee we can only hope it means 802.11ac... All this means is that demand exceeds supply.

11-14-2013, 04:52 PM	#45
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Corto-PA The camera was designed to take advantage of it. Not having it available at launch.....Call it what you want, But what if you wanted the K-3 for that feature....? Good lord with you Fan Kids...... Ya, I guess they should have delayed the launch of the camera until the FLUcard is ready… then you would have whined and called the K-3 vapourware.