FluCard broken

jup · 03-19-2014, 11:58 AM

I managed to get my FluCard into unusable state after first 30 minutes of use. The card was in the camera in remote capture, working fine, I switched from P to M mode and connection died. On subsequent reconnects, all I get is broken menu (in Japanese?). Tried to format the card/reset communication settings to no avail.

I attach screenshots of the menu and what happens when I try clicking any of the items.

Anybody had this happen before? Any ideas what I could try before sending it back?

PS: I did contact Trek support (no response so far) and will try to contact Ricoh as well.

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derekkite · 03-19-2014, 01:25 PM

There is a menu setting that resets the card. Or try formatting. Sounds like a dud.

Unregistered User · 03-19-2014, 01:33 PM

I will ask my friend from Japan what it says...

jup · 03-19-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by derekkite

There is a menu setting that resets the card. Or try formatting. Sounds like a dud.

The menu setting only resets communication settings. And as I said, I tried both of these. I also tried leaving the card out for the day and inspecting the card in the computer. Doesn't do much. Can always send it back to Adorama and get a new one, but it seems very fragile and has me worried how long the new one will last...

K-3-lover · 03-20-2014, 12:41 AM

Do you still hear continuous beep sound when the card stats up? Have you measured Wi-Fi signal in your environment? The default channel 6 might be congested in your environment.

Unregistered User · 03-20-2014, 01:55 AM

The pop-up says prepare or ready.

Adam · 03-20-2014, 01:56 AM

Could it have overheated perhaps?

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thickeyebrow · 03-20-2014, 02:01 AM

From top to bottom it says:

Remote Shooting
Image Review
Setting

Adam · 03-20-2014, 02:05 AM - **1 Like**

Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good!

vonBaloney · 03-20-2014, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good!

Yes, and maybe some of them are competing? Close all those tabs, shut down and restart everything on the phone side also...

stevebrot · 03-20-2014, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good!

The 68 tabs open is intended to make the fault isolation process more interesting.

Steve

jup · 03-20-2014, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good!

What? This is Google Chrome on Android. There is actually an Easter egg you get to once you open 100 tabs

: Chrome for Android Easter eggs: stupid tab tricks - Android Community. Google's such a show off... Anyway, this has nothing to do with it. Chrome will easily manage 100s of tabs open. Now if I can manage them, that is a different question.

Beeping is normal (three beeps). Connection is strong and worked fine before the crash. Cannot switch channel since I cannot get into the menu to switch channel. No overheating, as I said, card was out for the day and this persisted right after it got inserted. I guess it will get shipped back.

rawr · 03-20-2014, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by jup

Chrome will easily manage 100s of tabs open.

I don't know about Android, but on Windows, Chrome spawns a huge number of open HTTP connections, and system processes, with each open tab. Just having 4 tabs open sees me running 16 Chrome processes and spawning (and holding open) over 100 HTTP connections. I can easily imagine 60 open tabs totally choking a system.

stevebrot · 03-20-2014, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by rawr

I don't know about Android, but on Windows, Chrome spawns a huge number of open HTTP connections, and system processes, with each open tab. Just having 4 tabs open sees me running 16 Chrome processes and spawning (and holding open) over 100 HTTP connections. I can easily imagine 60 open tabs totally choking a system.

68 tabs open, each loaded with a page that in all likelihood is generating tons of HTTP async requests in an attempt to service the scripts that run the various page features. The only problem is that the phone is no longer connected to a network that provides a gateway out. Hundreds of requests using system resources and only releasing them when they time out only to create them new almost immediately Hmmmm...competition for a limited resource, in this case HTTP sockets.

I dunno, it may not be a problem, but it hardly helps when attempting to do fault isolation if the system is unnecessarily complex with multiple potential contributors to the issue. But, what do I know. I only write Web applications for a living and regularly have to resolve issues of this sort that are not uncommon with distributed applications.

Steve

jup · 03-20-2014, 10:33 PM

It's the card that is broken. Chrome for Android does use almost zero resources for background tabs. Google did hell of a job with it - it won't sweat at all with 70+ tabs. Unlike any desktop browser (Chrome included). But that's not the issue here, so could we please get back to the topic of the card instead of Chrome?

I am not silly. I did try connecting from my tablet and just for the heck of it also from ipod with Safari. The page is still the same.

03-19-2014, 11:58 AM	#1
jup Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 103	FluCard broken I managed to get my FluCard into unusable state after first 30 minutes of use. The card was in the camera in remote capture, working fine, I switched from P to M mode and connection died. On subsequent reconnects, all I get is broken menu (in Japanese?). Tried to format the card/reset communication settings to no avail. I attach screenshots of the menu and what happens when I try clicking any of the items. Anybody had this happen before? Any ideas what I could try before sending it back? PS: I did contact Trek support (no response so far) and will try to contact Ricoh as well. Attached Images

03-20-2014, 02:05 AM - 1 Like	#9
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03-19-2014, 01:25 PM	#2
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	There is a menu setting that resets the card. Or try formatting. Sounds like a dud.

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Unregistered User Guest	I will ask my friend from Japan what it says...

03-19-2014, 01:58 PM	#4
jup Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 103 Original Poster	Originally posted by derekkite There is a menu setting that resets the card. Or try formatting. Sounds like a dud. The menu setting only resets communication settings. And as I said, I tried both of these. I also tried leaving the card out for the day and inspecting the card in the computer. Doesn't do much. Can always send it back to Adorama and get a new one, but it seems very fragile and has me worried how long the new one will last...

03-20-2014, 12:41 AM	#5
K-3-lover Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 47	Do you still hear continuous beep sound when the card stats up? Have you measured Wi-Fi signal in your environment? The default channel 6 might be congested in your environment.

03-20-2014, 01:55 AM	#6
Unregistered User Guest	The pop-up says prepare or ready.

03-20-2014, 01:56 AM	#7
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	Could it have overheated perhaps? Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

03-20-2014, 02:01 AM	#8
thickeyebrow Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: United States Photos: Albums Posts: 36	From top to bottom it says: Remote Shooting Image Review Setting

03-20-2014, 06:34 AM	#10
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	Originally posted by Adam Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good! Yes, and maybe some of them are competing? Close all those tabs, shut down and restart everything on the phone side also...

03-20-2014, 11:01 AM	#11
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Adam Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good! The 68 tabs open is intended to make the fault isolation process more interesting. Steve

03-20-2014, 11:59 AM	#12
jup Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 103 Original Poster	Originally posted by Adam Btw, do you really have 68 tabs open? That can't be good! What? This is Google Chrome on Android. There is actually an Easter egg you get to once you open 100 tabs : Chrome for Android Easter eggs: stupid tab tricks - Android Community. Google's such a show off... Anyway, this has nothing to do with it. Chrome will easily manage 100s of tabs open. Now if I can manage them, that is a different question. Beeping is normal (three beeps). Connection is strong and worked fine before the crash. Cannot switch channel since I cannot get into the menu to switch channel. No overheating, as I said, card was out for the day and this persisted right after it got inserted. I guess it will get shipped back.

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03-20-2014, 12:37 PM	#13
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jup Chrome will easily manage 100s of tabs open. I don't know about Android, but on Windows, Chrome spawns a huge number of open HTTP connections, and system processes, with each open tab. Just having 4 tabs open sees me running 16 Chrome processes and spawning (and holding open) over 100 HTTP connections. I can easily imagine 60 open tabs totally choking a system.

03-20-2014, 06:59 PM	#14
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by rawr I don't know about Android, but on Windows, Chrome spawns a huge number of open HTTP connections, and system processes, with each open tab. Just having 4 tabs open sees me running 16 Chrome processes and spawning (and holding open) over 100 HTTP connections. I can easily imagine 60 open tabs totally choking a system. 68 tabs open, each loaded with a page that in all likelihood is generating tons of HTTP async requests in an attempt to service the scripts that run the various page features. The only problem is that the phone is no longer connected to a network that provides a gateway out. Hundreds of requests using system resources and only releasing them when they time out only to create them new almost immediately Hmmmm...competition for a limited resource, in this case HTTP sockets. I dunno, it may not be a problem, but it hardly helps when attempting to do fault isolation if the system is unnecessarily complex with multiple potential contributors to the issue. But, what do I know. I only write Web applications for a living and regularly have to resolve issues of this sort that are not uncommon with distributed applications. Steve

03-20-2014, 10:33 PM	#15
jup Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 103 Original Poster	It's the card that is broken. Chrome for Android does use almost zero resources for background tabs. Google did hell of a job with it - it won't sweat at all with 70+ tabs. Unlike any desktop browser (Chrome included). But that's not the issue here, so could we please get back to the topic of the card instead of Chrome? I am not silly. I did try connecting from my tablet and just for the heck of it also from ipod with Safari. The page is still the same.