Odd: Camera froze

**winkler** · 09-15-2015, 05:04 PM

So odd. Shot an interview today for a video project with the K3. Latest firmware. When the interview was finished, I show the recorded video to the person I interviewed by playing back the video on my K3. It was a four and one-half minute clip. 38 seconds before the end of the clip, the playback froze. Stop button did nothing. Switched the camera off. The LCD still displayed the frozen image. Disconnected the battery grip. No change. Switched the camera on and off. Image still on the LCD. Camera would not respond to any buttons. Removed main battery. LCD blinked out. Yea! Reinserted battery, turned camera on. Camera operates normally.
Anyone have any observations, explanations, etc.?

**UncleVanya** · 09-15-2015, 05:12 PM

Overheating somewhere?

Adam · 09-15-2015, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by winkler

So odd. Shot an interview today for a video project with the K3. Latest firmware. When the interview was finished, I show the recorded video to the person I interviewed by playing back the video on my K3. It was a four and one-half minute clip. 38 seconds before the end of the clip, the playback froze. Stop button did nothing. Switched the camera off. The LCD still displayed the frozen image. Disconnected the battery grip. No change. Switched the camera on and off. Image still on the LCD. Camera would not respond to any buttons. Removed main battery. LCD blinked out. Yea! Reinserted battery, turned camera on. Camera operates normally.
Anyone have any observations, explanations, etc.?

Happens from time to time. Most likely low voltage, high temperature, or a glitch in data coming off the memory card.

wissink · 09-15-2015, 07:06 PM

I have this from time to time. Never do video though. I just take both batteries out and reinsert. Voila no issues.

Edgar_in_Indy · 09-15-2015, 07:09 PM

I occasionally get odd behavior, including freezing from my K-30. Pulling the battery has always fixed it. Never had a problem with my K-x, but it seems like the last couple of generations of Pentax DSLR's have been a little glitchy.

rawr · 09-15-2015, 09:31 PM

Never seen it for video, but a similar image review lockup glitch has happened about three times to me while shooting stills with the K-3.

That's only three times in about one year of regular camera use, so it's uncommon and not a huge drama. I'd rather it never happened in the first place though, because it usually happens at the most inconvenient times.

Ratcheteer · 09-15-2015, 09:58 PM

its to do read/write behaviour of the bus (communication system that transfers data between components) to the memory card
newer camera's have faster buses to accommodate for faster memory cards, but some sd cards have controllers that can crash faster buses. the worst offenders are usually lexar samsung transcend apacer (I've had issues with these cards in a canon d5m2, 1100d, black magic pocket camcorder and the sony nex fs-100, yet they will work fine in older equipment)

**PJ1** · 09-16-2015, 03:32 AM

My K-01 did it yesterday when I had taken just four pics. Battery out and back in fixed it (as usual). It has only ever done it before when I have been shooting lots of frames in quick succession. It is frustrating and always a bit unnerving when it happens. It would be more than slightly annoying if it made me miss a particular shot as well. But the modern camera is basically a computer and, in my experience, all computers hang from time to time. Still, the SD card issue is worth following up.

radeon7750 · 09-16-2015, 05:22 AM

Latest firmware seems buggy to me, lots of people have experienced issues ( read this forum ). This has stopped me from updating to v1.21.
On v1.11 I haven t had any issues yet (1 year since purchase and 4k pics taken). Just my 2c.

stevebrot · 09-16-2015, 03:20 PM

I had this problem early one with my K-3. I think it happened a handful of times in the first six months of ownership and not at all since installing firmware v1.11. Usually in happened while in playback mode or a mix of heavy shooting and playback.

Steve

rawr · 09-16-2015, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Ratcheteer

but some sd cards have controllers that can crash faster buses. the worst offenders are usually lexar samsung transcend apacer (I've had issues with these cards in a canon d5m2, 1100d, black magic pocket camcorder and the sony nex fs-100, yet they will work fine in older equipment)

Interesting. Sounds about right. I've only ever seen the problem after bouts of heavy shooting (ie hundreds of frames in a short period). Can't remember what the card was when it happened the other week, but it might have been a Transcend.

Originally posted by stevebrot

Usually in happened while in playback mode or a mix of heavy shooting and playback.

My experience too. Heavy shooting, then playback. If I've been shooting a small number of shots, never a problem.

09-15-2015, 05:04 PM	#1
winkler Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 23	Odd: Camera froze So odd. Shot an interview today for a video project with the K3. Latest firmware. When the interview was finished, I show the recorded video to the person I interviewed by playing back the video on my K3. It was a four and one-half minute clip. 38 seconds before the end of the clip, the playback froze. Stop button did nothing. Switched the camera off. The LCD still displayed the frozen image. Disconnected the battery grip. No change. Switched the camera on and off. Image still on the LCD. Camera would not respond to any buttons. Removed main battery. LCD blinked out. Yea! Reinserted battery, turned camera on. Camera operates normally. Anyone have any observations, explanations, etc.?

09-15-2015, 05:46 PM	#3
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,597	Originally posted by winkler So odd. Shot an interview today for a video project with the K3. Latest firmware. When the interview was finished, I show the recorded video to the person I interviewed by playing back the video on my K3. It was a four and one-half minute clip. 38 seconds before the end of the clip, the playback froze. Stop button did nothing. Switched the camera off. The LCD still displayed the frozen image. Disconnected the battery grip. No change. Switched the camera on and off. Image still on the LCD. Camera would not respond to any buttons. Removed main battery. LCD blinked out. Yea! Reinserted battery, turned camera on. Camera operates normally. Anyone have any observations, explanations, etc.? Happens from time to time. Most likely low voltage, high temperature, or a glitch in data coming off the memory card. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Overheating somewhere?

09-15-2015, 07:06 PM	#4
wissink Veteran Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: S-ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 609	I have this from time to time. Never do video though. I just take both batteries out and reinsert. Voila no issues.

09-15-2015, 07:09 PM	#5
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685	I occasionally get odd behavior, including freezing from my K-30. Pulling the battery has always fixed it. Never had a problem with my K-x, but it seems like the last couple of generations of Pentax DSLR's have been a little glitchy.

09-15-2015, 09:31 PM	#6
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Never seen it for video, but a similar image review lockup glitch has happened about three times to me while shooting stills with the K-3. That's only three times in about one year of regular camera use, so it's uncommon and not a huge drama. I'd rather it never happened in the first place though, because it usually happens at the most inconvenient times.

09-15-2015, 09:58 PM	#7
Ratcheteer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 223	its to do read/write behaviour of the bus (communication system that transfers data between components) to the memory card newer camera's have faster buses to accommodate for faster memory cards, but some sd cards have controllers that can crash faster buses. the worst offenders are usually lexar samsung transcend apacer (I've had issues with these cards in a canon d5m2, 1100d, black magic pocket camcorder and the sony nex fs-100, yet they will work fine in older equipment)

09-16-2015, 03:32 AM	#8
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	My K-01 did it yesterday when I had taken just four pics. Battery out and back in fixed it (as usual). It has only ever done it before when I have been shooting lots of frames in quick succession. It is frustrating and always a bit unnerving when it happens. It would be more than slightly annoying if it made me miss a particular shot as well. But the modern camera is basically a computer and, in my experience, all computers hang from time to time. Still, the SD card issue is worth following up.

09-16-2015, 05:22 AM	#9
radeon7750 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Romania Posts: 96	Latest firmware seems buggy to me, lots of people have experienced issues ( read this forum ). This has stopped me from updating to v1.21. On v1.11 I haven t had any issues yet (1 year since purchase and 4k pics taken). Just my 2c.

09-16-2015, 03:20 PM	#10
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	I had this problem early one with my K-3. I think it happened a handful of times in the first six months of ownership and not at all since installing firmware v1.11. Usually in happened while in playback mode or a mix of heavy shooting and playback. Steve

09-16-2015, 03:48 PM	#11
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Ratcheteer but some sd cards have controllers that can crash faster buses. the worst offenders are usually lexar samsung transcend apacer (I've had issues with these cards in a canon d5m2, 1100d, black magic pocket camcorder and the sony nex fs-100, yet they will work fine in older equipment) Interesting. Sounds about right. I've only ever seen the problem after bouts of heavy shooting (ie hundreds of frames in a short period). Can't remember what the card was when it happened the other week, but it might have been a Transcend. Originally posted by stevebrot Usually in happened while in playback mode or a mix of heavy shooting and playback. My experience too. Heavy shooting, then playback. If I've been shooting a small number of shots, never a problem.