K-3 date adjustment and lens profile issues

Wellshot · 05-28-2021, 06:00 AM

Hi,

Instead of selling my old K-3, I decided to use it for ultra wide angle shots with my Sigma 10-20. I usually shoot with my K1 mkii but miss the really wide angle.

It was sitting in my cabinet for over a year now. I updated the firmware, but every time I turn it on the first thing on the screen is the date adjustment section. No matter what. Any idea on how to get rid of this glitch?

Plus when I edit in PS, it does not read or "remember" the profile of the lens, although in the past it did. Its getting quite annoying now...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

chrism888 · 05-28-2021, 06:15 AM

Its probably the internal battery depleted, I don't think its user replaceable so prob needs a service / repair

**JimJohnson** · 05-28-2021, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by chrism888

Its probably the internal battery depleted, I don't think its user replaceable so prob needs a service / repair

Agreed. There is a thread in the Forum on just this topic. Bottom line is to keep a battery in your camera and periodically check the charge. It seems the internal battery has a long shelf-life when not used, but will drain if the camera is left without another power source for a long period.

While it likely won't work with this problem, many camera issues are resolved by inserting a fresh battery and doing a factory reset. What have you got to lose trying that?

**UncleVanya** · 05-28-2021, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Wellshot

It was sitting in my cabinet for over a year now. I updated the firmware, but every time I turn it on the first thing on the screen is the date adjustment section. No matter what. Any idea on how to get rid of this glitch?

Plus when I edit in PS, it does not read or "remember" the profile of the lens, although in the past it did. Its getting quite annoying now...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: date, Internal battery is depleted. As suggested replacement is a complex diy effort or costly repair.

Re: Photoshop losing lens ID, that’s weird. I can’t think of any way the camera (k3) would impact that assuming it is writing the Exif data. Can you extract the lens ID from Exif on the shots impacted?

**Michaelina2** · 05-28-2021, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by JimJohnson

Agreed. There is a thread in the Forum on just this topic. Bottom line is to keep a battery in your camera and periodically check the charge. It seems the internal battery has a long shelf-life when not used, but will drain if the camera is left without another power source for a long period.

While it likely won't work with this problem, many camera issues are resolved by inserting a fresh battery and doing a factory reset. What have you got to lose trying that?

A RESET of my 'justa' Q which has been sitting battery-less and unused for several years fixed its annoying need to have a fresh date entered every time a recharged battery is inserted.

Works great... M

Not a Number · 05-28-2021, 07:22 AM

Doubtful it will help as once these batteries are gone they're gone. From the Seiko spec sheets they have a life of 50 deep discharge/recharge cycles. But it does take time to recharge the battery. I would fully charge the main battery, put it in the camera and let it sit perhaps 24 hour before turning the camera on.

Wellshot · 05-28-2021, 07:45 AM

Hi All,

Thanks for all the suggestions. I just did a factory reset... nothing seemed to change. I will let the camera sit around for 24 hours with a fully charged battery and try again.

I would be surprised if I went through all these 50 cycles. I wasn't the most avid user back then. Bought it in September 2014 and got my K1 in 2019, so about 5 years of use all in all.

---------- Post added 05-28-21 at 07:55 AM ----------

To be clear I can change the profile manually in PS, actually Camera RAW, but I have to do this every single time.

the lens ID is given when I look at the EXIF info of the DNG file (working on an IMac)--after copying it from the memory card to the HD.

Weird...

**DonV** · 05-28-2021, 08:38 AM

Be patient.
I "revived" the battery in an 18 year old *ist DS that had not been used in years by setting the "time to off" to 30 minutes and turning it on 8 times in one day for a total of about 8 hours "on"

It "recharged" the internal battery, at least enough to change batteries without losing the date.
Do leave the batteries in to keep the battery charged and the clock "running".

Maybe the presence of the battery will do the same thing even if off- but may take days!

Not a Number · 05-28-2021, 01:55 PM

Depending on the chemistry some rechargeable batteries go bad if left deeply discharged for long periods of time. I think the moral of the story is to keep a charged (partially) main battery in the camera as much as possible.

**UncleVanya** · 05-28-2021, 04:36 PM

Long term lithium ion battery life is best at 50% charge. Put such a batter in equipment that sits a while. Keeps internal clock batteries happy. Keeps stores battery happy. Check monthly.

Wellshot · 05-31-2021, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by DonV

Be patient.
I "revived" the battery in an 18 year old *ist DS that had not been used in years by setting the "time to off" to 30 minutes and turning it on 8 times in one day for a total of about 8 hours "on"

It "recharged" the internal battery, at least enough to change batteries without losing the date.
Do leave the batteries in to keep the battery charged and the clock "running".

Maybe the presence of the battery will do the same thing even if off- but may take days!

Thanks for this tip. I'm trying this out. Keeping my fingers crossed.

05-28-2021, 06:00 AM	#1
Wellshot Junior Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 32	K-3 date adjustment and lens profile issues Hi, Instead of selling my old K-3, I decided to use it for ultra wide angle shots with my Sigma 10-20. I usually shoot with my K1 mkii but miss the really wide angle. It was sitting in my cabinet for over a year now. I updated the firmware, but every time I turn it on the first thing on the screen is the date adjustment section. No matter what. Any idea on how to get rid of this glitch? Plus when I edit in PS, it does not read or "remember" the profile of the lens, although in the past it did. Its getting quite annoying now... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

05-28-2021, 07:19 AM	#5
Michaelina2 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE Michigan USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,300	Thanks for the tip... Originally posted by JimJohnson Agreed. There is a thread in the Forum on just this topic. Bottom line is to keep a battery in your camera and periodically check the charge. It seems the internal battery has a long shelf-life when not used, but will drain if the camera is left without another power source for a long period. While it likely won't work with this problem, many camera issues are resolved by inserting a fresh battery and doing a factory reset. What have you got to lose trying that? A RESET of my 'justa' Q which has been sitting battery-less and unused for several years fixed its annoying need to have a fresh date entered every time a recharged battery is inserted. Works great... M

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05-28-2021, 06:15 AM	#2
chrism888 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 178	Its probably the internal battery depleted, I don't think its user replaceable so prob needs a service / repair

05-28-2021, 06:30 AM	#3
JimJohnson Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Summer:Lake Superior - Michigan Winter:Texas Hill Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,772	Originally posted by chrism888 Its probably the internal battery depleted, I don't think its user replaceable so prob needs a service / repair Agreed. There is a thread in the Forum on just this topic. Bottom line is to keep a battery in your camera and periodically check the charge. It seems the internal battery has a long shelf-life when not used, but will drain if the camera is left without another power source for a long period. While it likely won't work with this problem, many camera issues are resolved by inserting a fresh battery and doing a factory reset. What have you got to lose trying that?

05-28-2021, 06:53 AM	#4
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Originally posted by Wellshot It was sitting in my cabinet for over a year now. I updated the firmware, but every time I turn it on the first thing on the screen is the date adjustment section. No matter what. Any idea on how to get rid of this glitch? Plus when I edit in PS, it does not read or "remember" the profile of the lens, although in the past it did. Its getting quite annoying now... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Re: date, Internal battery is depleted. As suggested replacement is a complex diy effort or costly repair. Re: Photoshop losing lens ID, that’s weird. I can’t think of any way the camera (k3) would impact that assuming it is writing the Exif data. Can you extract the lens ID from Exif on the shots impacted?

05-28-2021, 07:22 AM	#6
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,525	Doubtful it will help as once these batteries are gone they're gone. From the Seiko spec sheets they have a life of 50 deep discharge/recharge cycles. But it does take time to recharge the battery. I would fully charge the main battery, put it in the camera and let it sit perhaps 24 hour before turning the camera on.

05-28-2021, 07:45 AM	#7
Wellshot Junior Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 32 Original Poster	Hi All, Thanks for all the suggestions. I just did a factory reset... nothing seemed to change. I will let the camera sit around for 24 hours with a fully charged battery and try again. I would be surprised if I went through all these 50 cycles. I wasn't the most avid user back then. Bought it in September 2014 and got my K1 in 2019, so about 5 years of use all in all. ---------- Post added 05-28-21 at 07:55 AM ---------- To be clear I can change the profile manually in PS, actually Camera RAW, but I have to do this every single time. the lens ID is given when I look at the EXIF info of the DNG file (working on an IMac)--after copying it from the memory card to the HD. Weird...

05-28-2021, 08:38 AM	#8
DonV Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Near Charlotte NC Photos: Albums Posts: 693	Be patient. I "revived" the battery in an 18 year old *ist DS that had not been used in years by setting the "time to off" to 30 minutes and turning it on 8 times in one day for a total of about 8 hours "on" It "recharged" the internal battery, at least enough to change batteries without losing the date. Do leave the batteries in to keep the battery charged and the clock "running". Maybe the presence of the battery will do the same thing even if off- but may take days!

05-28-2021, 01:55 PM	#9
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,525	Depending on the chemistry some rechargeable batteries go bad if left deeply discharged for long periods of time. I think the moral of the story is to keep a charged (partially) main battery in the camera as much as possible.

05-28-2021, 04:36 PM	#10
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Long term lithium ion battery life is best at 50% charge. Put such a batter in equipment that sits a while. Keeps internal clock batteries happy. Keeps stores battery happy. Check monthly.

05-31-2021, 04:30 AM	#11
Wellshot Junior Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 32 Original Poster	Originally posted by DonV Be patient. I "revived" the battery in an 18 year old *ist DS that had not been used in years by setting the "time to off" to 30 minutes and turning it on 8 times in one day for a total of about 8 hours "on" It "recharged" the internal battery, at least enough to change batteries without losing the date. Do leave the batteries in to keep the battery charged and the clock "running". Maybe the presence of the battery will do the same thing even if off- but may take days! Thanks for this tip. I'm trying this out. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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