Pentax K-3 Video Discussion

Steve.Ledger · 10-24-2013, 05:22 AM

There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.

Steve.Ledger · 10-24-2013, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Dave L

So however good the Movie SR is, I hope there also remains the mechanical option.

Page 22

jaad75 · 10-24-2013, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by repaap

You should take a look at K-3 owner manual. There it is. You can choose between different ways of AF-in movie.

Where is the page that says so?

Originally posted by sledger

There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.

That doesn't exclude the possibility of using the AF/Focus Peaking while recording. The manual is just not clear enough, like they didn't know at the time of writing it.

repaap · 10-24-2013, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by sledger

There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.

I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish.

There is listed AF possibilityes at movie.

jaad75 · 10-24-2013, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by repaap

I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish.

There is listed AF possibilityes at movie.

There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say:

Quote:

Detects and tracks faces of people.
(Default setting)
The main face detection frame for AF
and AE is displayed in yellow.

And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording.

Dave L · 10-24-2013, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Page 22

Thanks, that seems to say all you can have is "Movie SR" ON or OFF (i.e. we have been assuming software shake reduction but we don't actually know that yet). What I was saying is that we should have the mechanical (sensor shifting) shake reduction as an option, if Movie SR is software based.

repaap · 10-24-2013, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by jaad75

There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say:

And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording.

Yes. My bad... But! At video shootin page 40. It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right.

Tanzer · 10-24-2013, 06:06 AM

That sounds similar to the K-01 implementation. The K-01 does pre-focus (using half-press or AF button) before video, and even supports AF on-command (using ~~same shutter half-press or~~ AF button) during video, but will not do continuous AF during video.

I guess we'll have to see about the K-3.

repaap · 10-24-2013, 06:10 AM

Does K-01 have face detection?

Edit: wich tracks face after gets focused.

Steve.Ledger · 10-24-2013, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by Tanzer

...and even supports AF on-command (using same shutter half-press or AF button) during video.

You must have a different K-01 to mine because you cannot refocus during video recording with a half press.
Unless I have totally missed a setting I didn't know about..

jaad75 · 10-24-2013, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by repaap

It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right.

I have the K-30 implementation in mind - you had e.g. Focus Peaking available, but you could not use it during recording etc.

Originally posted by repaap

Does K-01 have face detection?

The K-5 has.

mamethot · 10-24-2013, 06:41 AM

What encourrages me is that Ricoh seems very comitted to improvements by regular firmware updates. What is missing now might come after in new iterations of the software or even a 2.0 version.

I think it is going to be good at the beginning and new features will make it great.

rawr · 10-24-2013, 06:59 AM - **1 Like**

One of the things most interesting to observe here is that the three most active subjects so far on Pentax Forums about the K-3 cover: (a) video, (b) flash and (c) Wifi.

Every other issue (so far) hardly gets a mention. Perhaps this is something Ricoh should pay attention to.

Col · 10-24-2013, 08:00 AM

No, I think it is that we have complete confidence in Pentax for IQ (stills). Both Video & flash were mis-rumoured & WiFi is someone not paying attention.

repaap · 10-24-2013, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by rawr

One of the things most interesting to observe here is that the three most active subjects so far on Pentax Forums about the K-3 cover: (a) video, (b) flash and (c) Wifi.

Every other issue (so far) hardly gets a mention. Perhaps this is something Ricoh should pay attention to.

That is true, yet they have made big improvements on other places, so it is not anymore being in everyones teeths(focus for one)for now.

Besides, video is so minor part in photography and WiFi that it will take more time from Ricoh...and also to make up, if it is something that they wan't to evolve. They are making it to that direction thou. From K-01 with dedicated button, but still on the level what is just enough for today/compared to other models. +now they have that headphones thing. This is enough for many.

About flash...no comments, for me it is oukhay for now.

Jus my 2 cent.

10-24-2013, 05:28 AM	#287
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by Dave L So however good the Movie SR is, I hope there also remains the mechanical option. Page 22 Last edited by Steve.Ledger; 10-25-2013 at 06:31 AM.

10-24-2013, 06:06 AM	#293
Tanzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Perrineville, NJ Posts: 1,375	That sounds similar to the K-01 implementation. The K-01 does pre-focus (using half-press or AF button) before video, and even supports AF on-command (using ~~same shutter half-press or~~ AF button) during video, but will not do continuous AF during video. I guess we'll have to see about the K-3. Last edited by Tanzer; 11-01-2013 at 08:03 PM. Reason: Deleted some words that somehow caused an international crisis

10-24-2013, 08:00 AM	#299
Col Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stansted Essex Photos: Gallery Posts: 614	No, I think it is that we have complete confidence in Pentax for IQ (stills). Both Video & flash were mis-rumoured & WiFi is someone not paying attention. Last edited by Col; 10-24-2013 at 10:11 AM.

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10-24-2013, 05:22 AM	#286
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video. See page 40 of the manual.

10-24-2013, 05:34 AM	#288
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by repaap You should take a look at K-3 owner manual. There it is. You can choose between different ways of AF-in movie. Where is the page that says so? Originally posted by sledger There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video. See page 40 of the manual. That doesn't exclude the possibility of using the AF/Focus Peaking while recording. The manual is just not clear enough, like they didn't know at the time of writing it.

10-24-2013, 05:37 AM	#289
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by sledger There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video. See page 40 of the manual. I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish. There is listed AF possibilityes at movie.

10-24-2013, 05:48 AM	#290
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by repaap I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish. There is listed AF possibilityes at movie. There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say: Quote: Detects and tracks faces of people. (Default setting) The main face detection frame for AF and AE is displayed in yellow. And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording.

10-24-2013, 05:50 AM	#291
Dave L Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 306	Originally posted by sledger Page 22 Thanks, that seems to say all you can have is "Movie SR" ON or OFF (i.e. we have been assuming software shake reduction but we don't actually know that yet). What I was saying is that we should have the mechanical (sensor shifting) shake reduction as an option, if Movie SR is software based.

10-24-2013, 06:00 AM	#292
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by jaad75 There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say: And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording. Yes. My bad... But! At video shootin page 40. It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right.

10-24-2013, 06:10 AM	#294
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Does K-01 have face detection? Edit: wich tracks face after gets focused.

10-24-2013, 06:10 AM	#295
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by Tanzer ...and even supports AF on-command (using same shutter half-press or AF button) during video. You must have a different K-01 to mine because you cannot refocus during video recording with a half press. Unless I have totally missed a setting I didn't know about..

10-24-2013, 06:18 AM	#296
jaad75 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cracow Posts: 457	Originally posted by repaap It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right. I have the K-30 implementation in mind - you had e.g. Focus Peaking available, but you could not use it during recording etc. Originally posted by repaap Does K-01 have face detection? The K-5 has.

10-24-2013, 06:41 AM	#297
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	What encourrages me is that Ricoh seems very comitted to improvements by regular firmware updates. What is missing now might come after in new iterations of the software or even a 2.0 version. I think it is going to be good at the beginning and new features will make it great.

10-24-2013, 06:59 AM - 1 Like	#298
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	One of the things most interesting to observe here is that the three most active subjects so far on Pentax Forums about the K-3 cover: (a) video, (b) flash and (c) Wifi. Every other issue (so far) hardly gets a mention. Perhaps this is something Ricoh should pay attention to.

10-24-2013, 08:13 AM	#300
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by rawr One of the things most interesting to observe here is that the three most active subjects so far on Pentax Forums about the K-3 cover: (a) video, (b) flash and (c) Wifi. Every other issue (so far) hardly gets a mention. Perhaps this is something Ricoh should pay attention to. That is true, yet they have made big improvements on other places, so it is not anymore being in everyones teeths(focus for one)for now. Besides, video is so minor part in photography and WiFi that it will take more time from Ricoh...and also to make up, if it is something that they wan't to evolve. They are making it to that direction thou. From K-01 with dedicated button, but still on the level what is just enough for today/compared to other models. +now they have that headphones thing. This is enough for many. About flash...no comments, for me it is oukhay for now. Jus my 2 cent.