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10-24-2013, 03:53 AM   #286
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
Oh, BTW...it does AF with video and face detect...so good news on that too.
In LV - yes, but there is still no confirmation it can do it while filming.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
In LV - yes, but there is still no confirmation it can do it while filming.
You should take a look at K-3 owner manual. There it is. You can choose between different ways of AF-in movie.
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QuoteOriginally posted by grispie Quote
+1
That the SR may not work as good as we want it (or as K5), wouldn't hold me off to buy one...
In the end, how many DSLRs have decent image stabilisation for video and when needed, at least the K3 will have SR.
I think the "musicians" video, that John Flores posted, proves that it can be very useful...
What type of image stabilization to use should be a user option. Software "SR" can be implemented in post production if required and with greater control too. Mechanical shake reduction can only be done in-camera and, if there is a risk of extraneous sounds from it (which also exists for other camera operations), an external and probably better quality audio recorder can be used, then merged in post.

So however good the Movie SR is, I hope there also remains the mechanical option.
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There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Dave L Quote
So however good the Movie SR is, I hope there also remains the mechanical option.
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
You should take a look at K-3 owner manual. There it is. You can choose between different ways of AF-in movie.
Where is the page that says so?
QuoteOriginally posted by sledger Quote
There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.
That doesn't exclude the possibility of using the AF/Focus Peaking while recording. The manual is just not clear enough, like they didn't know at the time of writing it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sledger Quote
There's no AF while shooting video, only before shooting video.
See page 40 of the manual.
I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish.

There is listed AF possibilityes at movie.
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
I read page 47. 'If you choose face detection, it locks up and follows it during recording' my translation from finnish. May be that I read it as I wish.

There is listed AF possibilityes at movie.
There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say:
QuoteQuote:
Detects and tracks faces of people.
(Default setting)
The main face detection frame for AF
and AE is displayed in yellow.
And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording.

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QuoteOriginally posted by sledger Quote
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Thanks, that seems to say all you can have is "Movie SR" ON or OFF (i.e. we have been assuming software shake reduction but we don't actually know that yet). What I was saying is that we should have the mechanical (sensor shifting) shake reduction as an option, if Movie SR is software based.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
There is nothing like this on page 47 in the English version. About Face Detection they say:

And the list is about the LV AF possibilities, not the AF during recording.
Yes. My bad... But! At video shootin page 40. It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right.
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That sounds similar to the K-01 implementation. The K-01 does pre-focus (using half-press or AF button) before video, and even supports AF on-command (using same shutter half-press or AF button) during video, but will not do continuous AF during video.

I guess we'll have to see about the K-3.

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Does K-01 have face detection?

Edit: wich tracks face after gets focused.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tanzer Quote
...and even supports AF on-command (using same shutter half-press or AF button) during video.
You must have a different K-01 to mine because you cannot refocus during video recording with a half press.
Unless I have totally missed a setting I didn't know about..
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
It says 'at AF mode push shutter halfway to autofocus. It is not far fetzhed that this AF mode could use things from Shooting with LV. Otherwise it would not say push shutter button. You don't need shutter anymore for video. Makes sense, no. And you can program AF button to AF instead of shutter button... We will have to see, right.
I have the K-30 implementation in mind - you had e.g. Focus Peaking available, but you could not use it during recording etc.
QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
Does K-01 have face detection?
The K-5 has.
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What encourrages me is that Ricoh seems very comitted to improvements by regular firmware updates. What is missing now might come after in new iterations of the software or even a 2.0 version.

I think it is going to be good at the beginning and new features will make it great.
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