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11-08-2013, 09:56 AM   #361
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SO in video mode, ..ISO, SHUTTER, IRIS...can be setting manually and separately !! god..!!!finally!!

, in k5, despite excellent video was dramatic work without control!

BUT you can set them also when you are in REC mode! ( iris I think yes...and iso & shutter ?!?)

are any video quality , also in 4k demos examples ? on youtbe or vimeo to see ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
Switching from Live View stills to Video crops the image a couple degrees to either side and top and bottom (3:2 to 19:9 proportions). SR has no effect on amount of crop.

Turning SR on and off while in video mode has no effect on crop.
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Croping extra top and bottom is of course necessary. I'm talking about an extra 10% or so off the sides and even more off the top and bottom (a zoom in effect) like with the k-01 (not very important to most). Pentax APSC sensor pretty exactly matches today's super 35mm cine format but not with an extra crop. (Super 35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Music video, all scenes with the lovers shot with K-01 (first time using the camera)
Copied from an old post: Recently I got a K-01 strictly for film making so the camera is used as though it was a Panaflex, thus SR and AF are of no use to me anyway and I am very pleased with the film look over Nikon's or Canon's I've used. The only thing I would like to see fixed on this little gem, is a firmware hack to disable the sensor crop in film mode. Any ideas?
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Music video, all scenes with the lovers shot with K-01
nice video!
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Maybe I should follow my own advice in my signature (A picture is worth a thousand words, so shut up.) and ask:
Doe's anyone know if the K-3 does this (see photos) like the K-01.

#1 K-01 Still


#2 K-01 Video


#3 K-01 Video frame lined up with Still frame and outlined to show crop.


Isn't technology fun.

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Doe's anyone know if the K-3 does this (see photos) like the K-01.
believe so, 99% sure, but i don't have one...
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Doe's anyone know if the K-3 does this (see photos) like the K-01.
Yes...
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The good news is you just saved me $1200
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QuoteOriginally posted by grispie Quote
nice video!
Thanks!

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The good news is you just saved me $1200
What are you going to get instead?
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I'm not understanding why that little cropping is such an issue. I would think all it means is using a slightly shorter focal length and you get anyway the same field of view. Resolution for sure is not an issue as even full HD is way less resolution than what the sensor can give (the image resolution is reduced some 2 to 3 times even if the whole sensor is used)

What am I missing?
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What am I missing?
nothing, there is no issue
people just need sthing to complain...
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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
What are you going to get instead?
I'll just keep the K-01 for film stuff. I've got a few nice old long focus throw lenses that follow nice, I'm a happy guy. Full APSC sensor would be happier but hey.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lister6520 Quote
I'm not understanding why that little cropping is such an issue. I would think all it means is using a slightly shorter focal length and you get anyway the same field of view. Resolution for sure is not an issue as even full HD is way less resolution than what the sensor can give (the image resolution is reduced some 2 to 3 times even if the whole sensor is used)

What am I missing?
Well, APSC is already a cropped sensor, it gets double crop in video mode. It's hard to work with a 50mm, you need to get quite far with the video crop. Furthermore, if you need to use SR in post production it gets cropped again.

Basically it's much much worse, especially considering that canon for example can use digital zoom for video with no loss using the sensor crop, so you can choose how cropped you want the video, which is just a tiny variation in firmware programming, same as SR activation and such.

If you shot some video you would see.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lister6520 Quote
I'm not understanding why that little cropping is such an issue. I would think all it means is using a slightly shorter focal length and you get anyway the same field of view. Resolution for sure is not an issue as even full HD is way less resolution than what the sensor can give (the image resolution is reduced some 2 to 3 times even if the whole sensor is used)

What am I missing?
Good question. What your missing is very subtle at first but it's about feel.
Think of it this way. Why is there an 85mm(55mm apsc) and a 105mm(70mm apsc) when they're so close.
Back in the day as a Manhattan fashion/beauty photo bum, I used to do a lot of beauty photography, and almost always with a Nikon 105 2.5 (just pushing the limit of up close and personal feel) later with a Pentax 35-105 3.5 @ 105. Sometimes an 85mm for horizontal shots, and rarely but sometimes a 135mm for when you wanted the women to look less touchable.

In the case of the usability of a 28-70 well it's just not as perfect any more. Your gonna have to think when you want to create your 105 look and where 28-70 might have got you through your entire project/film now your a lot more likely to need something wider.

But it does give reason to seek improvement which gives people like grispie something to complain about so that's good.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ayoh Quote
So in video mode we essentially have a 4/3rds, APS-C camera with terrible image quality with stabilization enabled. But it's great because it has a headphone jack! Brilliant design by Pentax engineers.
Arggh...<facepalm>

Does anyone know what the bitrate is yet? At least the GH3 has a high bitrate. I'm beginning to think that for a video DSLR, the best bets are GH3 and Canon...haven't heard much about using Sony DSLRs for video either
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