Pentax K-3 Video Discussion

Steve.Ledger · 11-09-2013, 04:13 PM

Yes ok, but I'm surprised 'tis all. I like to have options, even if I end up sticking to one.

Could you post another unedited sample, this time of a regular outdoor scene, please

EDIT: Ah, you posted as I was posting..
Overcast is fine for me

kenyee · 11-09-2013, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by sledger

Overcast is fine for me

Actually, overcast doesn't show much for dynamic range...same as when you take photos outdoors w/ overcast skies. It's not that difficult to retain detail in shadows and highlights. When the sun comes out, you have much harsher shadows and need around 3 more stops of range IIRC...

Interesting that there's an HDR option for video....should be interesting to see what that does. And funny that there's no quality option for the K-3's video...definitely a step back

Vylen · 11-09-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by sledger

EDIT: Ah, you posted as I was posting..
Overcast is fine for me

http://110.232.142.16/~vylencom/other/pentax/IMGP0082.MOV

Just for you... recorded with Sigma 10-20 3.5

I got the bright idea to use my own website to store these files - duh... Although I need to sort some stuff with it... ~~(my domain name is currently pointing to somewhere NSFW lol)~~ ~~FIXED! Yay :)~~ DNS records are slow to propagate

Steve.Ledger · 11-09-2013, 05:43 PM

Excellent, thanks. Lovely Sydney weather you're having

It's cool up here near Cairns, but sunny at least..

I'll take a closer look at what can be done in APP but it seems a few steps better than the K-01. I see moire on the roof of one home and I assume you had SR enabled? Didn't look as bad as some have been suggesting.
Thanks again.

Vylen · 11-09-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by sledger

Excellent, thanks. Lovely Sydney weather you're having

Well, it's a welcome change - yesterday was quite sunny and hot and there were actually a couple grass fires going on 5-10minutes out where I live... Hopefully the rain increases!

Yes, SR was enabled - it's not too bad for slow panning.

Steve.Ledger · 11-09-2013, 06:01 PM

Yes, you've not had a good time of it in NSW.. The rain sure would be a useful I agree.

Did you have the picture style set to flat? Full minus contrast and sharpness for example? It looks quite contrasty so I assume you left it at a default picture setting. Nevertheless, I could still pull some details out of the dark shadows.
Thanks again. Look forward to whenever you can post more examples..

Vylen · 11-09-2013, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by sledger

Did you have the picture style set to flat? Full minus contrast and sharpness for example? It looks quite contrasty so I assume you left it at a default picture setting. Nevertheless, I could still pull some details out of the dark shadows.

Yep.. no "Digital Filter" as it's described in the menu screen shot I posted earlier... So it's a pretty accurate reproduction of outside

Steve.Ledger · 11-09-2013, 06:54 PM

I'm actually referring to the picture style rather than digital filters. I assume this is similar to how one sets up the K-7, K-01 and Q ? (Page 57 of the K-3 PDF)

Here's how I have setup the K-01 for movie clips.
This makes it easy to work with in post.

Vylen · 11-09-2013, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by sledger

I'm actually referring to the picture style rather than digital filters.

Oh, right... or "Custom Image" as it's called... I had it left as "Bright" or the default... which I guess is everything neutral.. no adjustments on anything.

Got any recommended or requested settings? I'll see what I can do.

Steve.Ledger · 11-09-2013, 08:52 PM

Lol yes, both terms are used to confuse us as the manual writes

Quote:

When you want to take pictures with a slightly different style,
you can set the desired picture style before shooting.
Try out the various settings, and find your best picture style

But yes, in the actual menu it's says Custom Image you're right.

Quote:

Got any recommended or requested settings? I'll see what I can do.

Sure, select the muted preset then fully minus the contrast, contrast highlights and sharpness (That's fully to the left).
Shoot some near and far scenes with your sharpest lens. That should give me something to work with.. Thanks!

TomGarn · 11-10-2013, 07:52 AM

Please move this thread to the right board too - if possible and wanted.
Thank you a lot for reuniting the last and new video-.friends of Pentax !

Video and Pentax HDSLRs - PentaxForums.com

gambadilegno · 11-10-2013, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Vylen

http://110.232.142.16/~vylencom/other/pentax/IMGP0082.MOV

Just for you... recorded with Sigma 10-20 3.5

I got the bright idea to use my own website to store these files - duh... Although I need to sort some stuff with it... ~~(my domain name is currently pointing to somewhere NSFW lol)~~ ~~FIXED! Yay :)~~ DNS records are slow to propagate

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 29.97fps 21417kbps [Video] ?!?!?
detail HD...poor..... , moire' enought.100% like k5 & k7..

what's better of the k5 and k7 ? of qualitiy sure nothing...
is more near a 720p before 1920 p!!

with 21Mbps the range dor CC and dinamic light , to edit in post..il really SHORT.

mmmh I think I not change my k5 , 1600$ for nothing better in video qality is not a good idea.

.

slip · 11-10-2013, 09:21 AM

Does the k3 finally have auto focus in video?
I hardly ever use my K5IIS just for this fact...find trying to focus in live view just useless

Thanks

Randy

JohnnyXD · 11-10-2013, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by slip

Does the k3 finally have auto focus in video?
I hardly ever use my K5IIS just for this fact...find trying to focus in live view just useless

Thanks

Randy

No auto focus in video. But that's not something important. Other brands do it but on their expensive models.

First, video quality and shake reduction, video auto focus is something rather secondary.

derekkite · 11-10-2013, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by JohnnyXD

No auto focus in video. But that's not something important. Other brands do it but on their expensive models.

First, video quality and shake reduction, video auto focus is something rather secondary.

There is in fact autofocus in video. Hit the AF button while shooting and it focuses. A bit unsatisfactory as it is slow and CDAF (hunts), but it is there.

11-09-2013, 05:22 PM	#393
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by sledger EDIT: Ah, you posted as I was posting.. Overcast is fine for me http://110.232.142.16/~vylencom/other/pentax/IMGP0082.MOV Just for you... recorded with Sigma 10-20 3.5 I got the bright idea to use my own website to store these files - duh... Although I need to sort some stuff with it... ~~(my domain name is currently pointing to somewhere NSFW lol)~~ ~~FIXED! Yay :)~~ DNS records are slow to propagate Last edited by Vylen; 11-09-2013 at 05:58 PM.

11-09-2013, 06:54 PM	#398
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	I'm actually referring to the picture style rather than digital filters. I assume this is similar to how one sets up the K-7, K-01 and Q ? (Page 57 of the K-3 PDF) Here's how I have setup the K-01 for movie clips. This makes it easy to work with in post. Last edited by Steve.Ledger; 08-10-2014 at 10:12 PM.

11-10-2013, 09:21 AM	#403
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	Quick question Does the k3 finally have auto focus in video? I hardly ever use my K5IIS just for this fact...find trying to focus in live view just useless Thanks Randy

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11-09-2013, 04:13 PM	#391
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Yes ok, but I'm surprised 'tis all. I like to have options, even if I end up sticking to one. Could you post another unedited sample, this time of a regular outdoor scene, please EDIT: Ah, you posted as I was posting.. Overcast is fine for me

11-09-2013, 05:14 PM	#392
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by sledger Overcast is fine for me Actually, overcast doesn't show much for dynamic range...same as when you take photos outdoors w/ overcast skies. It's not that difficult to retain detail in shadows and highlights. When the sun comes out, you have much harsher shadows and need around 3 more stops of range IIRC... Interesting that there's an HDR option for video....should be interesting to see what that does. And funny that there's no quality option for the K-3's video...definitely a step back

11-09-2013, 05:43 PM	#394
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Excellent, thanks. Lovely Sydney weather you're having It's cool up here near Cairns, but sunny at least.. I'll take a closer look at what can be done in APP but it seems a few steps better than the K-01. I see moire on the roof of one home and I assume you had SR enabled? Didn't look as bad as some have been suggesting. Thanks again.

11-09-2013, 05:48 PM	#395
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by sledger Excellent, thanks. Lovely Sydney weather you're having Well, it's a welcome change - yesterday was quite sunny and hot and there were actually a couple grass fires going on 5-10minutes out where I live... Hopefully the rain increases! Yes, SR was enabled - it's not too bad for slow panning.

11-09-2013, 06:01 PM	#396
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Yes, you've not had a good time of it in NSW.. The rain sure would be a useful I agree. Did you have the picture style set to flat? Full minus contrast and sharpness for example? It looks quite contrasty so I assume you left it at a default picture setting. Nevertheless, I could still pull some details out of the dark shadows. Thanks again. Look forward to whenever you can post more examples..

11-09-2013, 06:08 PM	#397
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by sledger Did you have the picture style set to flat? Full minus contrast and sharpness for example? It looks quite contrasty so I assume you left it at a default picture setting. Nevertheless, I could still pull some details out of the dark shadows. Yep.. no "Digital Filter" as it's described in the menu screen shot I posted earlier... So it's a pretty accurate reproduction of outside

11-09-2013, 07:11 PM	#399
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by sledger I'm actually referring to the picture style rather than digital filters. Oh, right... or "Custom Image" as it's called... I had it left as "Bright" or the default... which I guess is everything neutral.. no adjustments on anything. Got any recommended or requested settings? I'll see what I can do.

11-09-2013, 08:52 PM	#400
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Lol yes, both terms are used to confuse us as the manual writes Quote: When you want to take pictures with a slightly different style, you can set the desired picture style before shooting. Try out the various settings, and find your best picture style But yes, in the actual menu it's says Custom Image you're right. Quote: Got any recommended or requested settings? I'll see what I can do. Sure, select the muted preset then fully minus the contrast, contrast highlights and sharpness (That's fully to the left). Shoot some near and far scenes with your sharpest lens. That should give me something to work with.. Thanks!

11-10-2013, 07:52 AM	#401
TomGarn Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Hamburg Posts: 339	Please move this thread to the right board too - if possible and wanted. Thank you a lot for reuniting the last and new video-.friends of Pentax ! Video and Pentax HDSLRs - PentaxForums.com

11-10-2013, 08:09 AM	#402
gambadilegno Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 8	Originally posted by Vylen http://110.232.142.16/~vylencom/other/pentax/IMGP0082.MOV Just for you... recorded with Sigma 10-20 3.5 I got the bright idea to use my own website to store these files - duh... Although I need to sort some stuff with it... ~~(my domain name is currently pointing to somewhere NSFW lol)~~ ~~FIXED! Yay :)~~ DNS records are slow to propagate Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 29.97fps 21417kbps [Video] ?!?!? detail HD...poor..... , moire' enought.100% like k5 & k7.. what's better of the k5 and k7 ? of qualitiy sure nothing... is more near a 720p before 1920 p!! with 21Mbps the range dor CC and dinamic light , to edit in post..il really SHORT. mmmh I think I not change my k5 , 1600$ for nothing better in video qality is not a good idea. .

11-10-2013, 10:19 AM	#404
JohnnyXD Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 93	Originally posted by slip Does the k3 finally have auto focus in video? I hardly ever use my K5IIS just for this fact...find trying to focus in live view just useless Thanks Randy No auto focus in video. But that's not something important. Other brands do it but on their expensive models. First, video quality and shake reduction, video auto focus is something rather secondary.

11-10-2013, 11:08 AM	#405
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by JohnnyXD No auto focus in video. But that's not something important. Other brands do it but on their expensive models. First, video quality and shake reduction, video auto focus is something rather secondary. There is in fact autofocus in video. Hit the AF button while shooting and it focuses. A bit unsatisfactory as it is slow and CDAF (hunts), but it is there.