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10-08-2013, 08:02 AM   #106
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If you wanted to shoot the maximum 4K HDR movie interval timelapse you could shoot for 99 hours @ one frame every 2 seconds that will amount to 178,200 frames that would give you a 49min 30 sec 4K HDR timelapse @60FPS.

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QuoteOriginally posted by johnmflores Quote
Canon 5Diii has a 29:59 recording limit and are susceptible to overheating as well. It's really only an issue when shooting long events. Short stuff, particularly the action-type things that you do, should not be an issue. Get a backup body and have it ready to go if you are shooting in extreme heat.
I understand that, and I have no problem with shoot time limits. But the way the description made it sound, it will also just shut itself at any time if it think it's getting too hot. It's one thing to have to plan around a known time limit, it's another thing if it just shuts off half way through a take and you didn't know it was coming.

You'd be surprised (I was) how easy it is to rack up some really long takes shooting adventure stuff, especially climbing. People don't move that fast, and when someone is going for a hard attempt, you don't want to miss anything, so it's easiest to just let it roll. You can strategically cut and restart when there's a break in the action, which helps with clip length; but that doesn't really help with heat, since the sensor is only off for a few seconds.

I know all DSLRs have a heat issue, so I'm not knocking the K-3 for that. Just the notion of it randomly deciding to shut itself off, scares me a little.
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No RAW video

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Long time since I have posted here. I wanted to clear up some confusion. The way the specifications were originally posted to the Ricoh Imaging website it may have given the impression that the formats listed where it mentioned RAW was for video. These were actually the still image formats. This has been corrected on the website to be more clear.

Still a pretty great camera though!

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I understand that, and I have no problem with shoot time limits. But the way the description made it sound, it will also just shut itself at any time if it think it's getting too hot. It's one thing to have to plan around a known time limit, it's another thing if it just shuts off half way through a take and you didn't know it was coming.

You'd be surprised (I was) how easy it is to rack up some really long takes shooting adventure stuff, especially climbing. People don't move that fast, and when someone is going for a hard attempt, you don't want to miss anything, so it's easiest to just let it roll. You can strategically cut and restart when there's a break in the action, which helps with clip length; but that doesn't really help with heat, since the sensor is only off for a few seconds.

I know all DSLRs have a heat issue, so I'm not knocking the K-3 for that. Just the notion of it randomly deciding to shut itself off, scares me a little.
Good point. Maybe a GH3 is a better solution for your needs. I've got the GH2 and have run for 2+ hours without overheating.

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All,

Long time since I have posted here. I wanted to clear up some confusion. The way the specifications were originally posted to the Ricoh Imaging website it may have given the impression that the formats listed where it mentioned RAW was for video. These were actually the still image formats. This has been corrected on the website to be more clear.

Still a pretty great camera though!

John
Thanks John - great looking camera and looking for more good things from Denver.

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All,

Long time since I have posted here. I wanted to clear up some confusion. The way the specifications were originally posted to the Ricoh Imaging website it may have given the impression that the formats listed where it mentioned RAW was for video. These were actually the still image formats. This has been corrected on the website to be more clear.

Still a pretty great camera though!

John
Thanks for the clarification, John!
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Well I never edit the video file which is RAW rather than RAW pic files...

What is good things about RAW video?
Same thing as RAW vs. JPEG photos. More dynamic range. You can fix white balance later. You can run better image sharpening, etc. on a faster computer than the little chip on the camera. Except at the video level (and yes, anything video related pretty much requires a fast video card to help w/ the processing).
Here's a demo video so you can see why we videophiles were so excited initially:
Comparing Magic Lantern Raw vs H.264 on My Canon 5D Mark III

Makes a huge difference as you can see. Pentax would have a huge coupe if they were the first DSLR w/ built-in RAW video support, but I suspect Panasonic will do it first because Canon doesn't want to impact their 1Dc sales by putting it in a 5DmkIV. Panasonic will also probably be the first w/ 4K video recording DSLRs since they make their own chips.

@JCPentax: if you're still listening: what's the H.264 bit rate the video is recorded at? And can you emit uncompressed frames to the HDMI output to do the H.264 compression later by recording to an Atmos?
I'm disappointed that USB 3.0 is the Hi-Speed version instead of Super-Speed, but that would have required passing wifi signals outside the body so I can see why they did it if they require using the FLU card for their "wifi" support
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Panasonic will also probably be the first w/ 4K video recording DSLRs since they make their own chips.
There is another company that makes their own chips that might beat them with a 4K camera but I am not allowed to mention it here since I will get banned again.

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The only pro that need longer than 20 min are event videographers who do weddings, performances and meetings.
Yup... which are also common nowadays.

But in any case, Pentax just went full throttle on video all of a sudden, and it's a joy to see it.
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Canon's 1D C shoots at 4K. RAW is a bigger deal for most applications.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JCPentax Quote
All,

Long time since I have posted here. I wanted to clear up some confusion. The way the specifications were originally posted to the Ricoh Imaging website it may have given the impression that the formats listed where it mentioned RAW was for video. These were actually the still image formats. This has been corrected on the website to be more clear.

Still a pretty great camera though!

John
Thanks for the clarification, John! Do you know if it will be possible to get an uncompressed, 1080 signal output from the HDMI, so you could record raw footage to an external recorder, like the D800 and a few of the hacked Canon's can do? If that would be possible, even if through a firmware update, that would be amazing. Also, if it's possible to unlock non-interlaced 1080p/60fps that would be incredible.

This camera looks amazing an I'm super psyched about it. But either one of those updates would really bump it into a whole other level, and put it at the top of the game in terms of video production. Regardless, it's packs a whole pbig pile of punch for the small Pentax package that we all know and love. Soooo much smaller than a D800 or 5DmkIII.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JCPentax Quote
All,

Long time since I have posted here. I wanted to clear up some confusion. The way the specifications were originally posted to the Ricoh Imaging website it may have given the impression that the formats listed where it mentioned RAW was for video. These were actually the still image formats. This has been corrected on the website to be more clear.

Still a pretty great camera though!

John
Cool to see you update us on things. Will you be more active with us on this forum? The k-3 is looking like a home-run for Pentax/Ricoh
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Canon's 1D C shoots at 4K. RAW is a bigger deal for most applications.
For $12,000 it better shoot 4K since the 1D X is the same camera without 4K for half the price.
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There is another company that makes their own chips that might beat them with a 4K camera but I am not allowed to mention it here since I will get banned again.
They won't because that would eat into their 1Dc sales
Panasonic has nothing to lose and everything to gain by bringing 4K to their GH4 to solidify "we are great alternatives for indie filmmakers" position. Their only real competition is the BMC which has better DR.

Pentax has done nicely to bring their video up to par finally, but it really is just up to par w/ Nikon IMHO. Canon/Sony/Panny has 1080/60p already and they're ahead of Nikon.
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They won't because that would eat into their 1Dc sales
Panasonic has nothing to lose and everything to gain by bringing 4K to their GH4 to solidify "we are great alternatives for indie filmmakers" position. Their only real competition is the BMC which has better DR.

Pentax has done nicely to bring their video up to par finally, but it really is just up to par w/ Nikon IMHO. Canon/Sony/Panny has 1080/60p already and they're ahead of Nikon.
I did not mean Canon with the $12,000 1D C but another company that has more 4K cameras than Panasonic or Canon. The GH4 should have 4K and I don't consider the BMC in the same class since it needs a rig and not a choice for people who want to shoot videos like regular consumers that want to watch the videos on their HDTV or upload to youtube instantly with no PP.
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