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10-08-2013, 07:02 AM   #46
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I think the first sample is about IS not about color.
0.8 sec with 43mm and this quality!!!!

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Great info and great pix!! I can't wait for some DNG sample files at the full 24 MP resolution to become available.
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Thanks for posting Frank... it looks like an awesome camera.
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That is terrible ! There should not be this much noise at ISO100.

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Dang! I've been very happy with my K5 but this is a game changer for me. I'll wait around for a bit until all the bugs are resolved but I am in like Flynn!

Thanks for the great review.
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Is there a dead pixel in this image?
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Thanks for your thoughts, Frank! Very helpful!

Do you know if the K-3 employs similar NR to high ISO RAW files, like the K-30? That's my only complaint about that camera. Thanks.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
That is terrible ! There should not be this much noise at ISO100.
ISO 100? that looks AWFUL! really bad...
QuoteOriginally posted by Sage97 Quote
Dang! I've been very happy with my K5 but this is a game changer for me. I'll wait around for a bit until all the bugs are resolved but I am in like Flynn!

Thanks for the great review.
after I saw the image above... I am going to wait after all... even if it means no silver camera... I want a camera where everything works! oh... there is some CF. that must be the lens... but lens can't cause pixels... i know it's low light but it looks bad... no details, no sharpness, a lot of CF, I wonder how much is the lens and how much is the camera?


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Looks great- thanks for sharing!

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QuoteOriginally posted by kh1234567890 Quote
That is terrible ! There should not be this much noise at ISO100.
Hopefully it has something to do with the "Finishing touch: Reversal Film" thing. It DOES sort of look like I imagine emulated reciprocity failure and low dynamic range would look.
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Is there a dead pixel in this image?
None.
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Hopefully it has something to do with the "Finishing touch: Reversal Film" thing.
Hmm... do you suggest, that this "Finishing touch" introduced noise deliberately"? But if so, wouldn't that have to be an ultra fine but crisp grain, if I view at original Resolution (i.e. pixel-peep)? the JPEG instead has this typical "wormy", slightly softened look of digital noise patterns, which I can't believe to be deliberate.
This digital wormy look is usually stemming from demosaicking and the softening from denoising attempts.

Regarding denoising, the water surface looks denoised to me as well, as if the finest ripples (those below a certain contrast level) were reduced a little further.

Another strange thing jumping into my eyes:
The water surface is stained with spots of false colors (cyan and violett), most prominently in the foreground where the contrasts are highest. I wonder, if this demonstrates the disadvantages of having no anti-aliasing-filter. Thank god, the K-3 has the option of simulating one with the help of sensor movement (probably not employed here).

I remember from the rumors, that the K-3 was supposed to be able to eradicate such aliasing color artifacts digitally. There seems no evidence, but maybe the rumors were wrong. Or it specializes on tackling only moire ripples, but not these individual tiny false color stains at contrast edges.

Overall, for an ISO=100 image it could have been cleaner (both sky and water) for my taste.

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1 out of 6 images

used CTE with reversal setting. The rest were spread across different settings: Landscape, portrait, natural, bright.
Not a bad idea to show five different camera settings, no?

Why pick on CTE in one shot?

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Did you notice the WB was set to CTE ?
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Most importantly, colour rendering wise, after all those horrible Hoya years, seems to be back in the ballpark!

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No, it looks like the Japanese version is out the camera, and German came through some CS6 post-processing (check the name and exif data). And those colors have nothing to do with the lack of AA filter, it's a simple CA of the DA10-17 amplified by terrible post-processing.
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