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10-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #91
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Well, then the moire removal function can come in useful every now and then.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
If you look at the description of the sample image, it say "reversal film" - these are jpg straight out of camera using the camera setting, and in this case, it uses "Reversal Film" to process the image. This 'filter' I believe add noise to it to simulate 'film look'. My guess....
Both of those images have Reversal Film description in exif, but depending on the exif tool you use, they have different descriptions under sharpness and contrast (if you use PhotoMe) or exactly the same (if you use Jeffrey's Exif viewer). Yet Japanese version has no trace of those artifacts and the one on German site is full of them. Plus the second picture has a CS6 tag left in the metadata, and CMYK added to its name.
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The coloured highlights on the waves are definitely colour moire
And they are gone completely from the original version? Magic. :P
This is clearly CA - I know this lens well, it shows CA on waves pretty often, and I used it on K10D, K-5 and IIs with the same behavior on all three bodies.

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There's a remarkable amount of noise in sample images 5 and 6 for ISO100. I'd say it's a little bit worse than what I would expect to see at ISO400 from the K5. Why would this be? Maybe they are low quality versions?

Edit: On closer examination I think sample image 5 actually looks to be around ISO400 on the K5, a little better perhaps but sample image 5 worse, between ISO400 and 800. But I think sample image 5 is actually ISO200. However, they both look kind of blotchier than equivalent noise levels on the K5. I only shoot RAW on the K5, so it's not a scientific comparison. But it surprised me nonetheless.

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Which sample site are you talking about, German?

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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
Which sample site are you talking about, German?
The full size images here.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Orloff Quote
There's a remarkable amount of noise in sample images 5 and 6 for ISO100. I'd say it's a little bit worse than what I would expect to see at ISO400 from the K5. Why would this be? Maybe they are low quality versions?

Edit: On closer examination I think sample image 5 actually looks to be around ISO400 on the K5, a little better perhaps but sample image 5 worse, between ISO400 and 800. But I think sample image 5 is actually ISO200. However, they both look kind of blotchier than equivalent noise levels on the K5. I only shoot RAW on the K5, so it's not a scientific comparison. But it surprised me nonetheless.
Number 5 does seem to be ISO200. Perhaps this is the price you pay for having a 24Mpixel sensor - if you view the images at 75-80% then the noise is much less noticeable. Also the samples I've looked at all seem to have shadow correction on - this can up the shadow noise. And they were all taken on manual focus
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Japanese samples are ok (for JPGs). I see nothing to be worry about.
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Those asking questions regarding frank's review of the K-3 will need to be patient and not have he expectation that frank will field all the enquiries. He is a very busy guy and barely has enough time to post on the forum, let alone on the other photography forum he moderates on. We may have to wait until more units have been tested in the wild by those who have more opportunity to follow up. Thanks everyone.


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images no longer available :-(

Hum..... can't see the images, I hope they'll come back, it's a nice post.
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Hum..... can't see the images, I hope they'll come back, it's a nice post.
I've got them saved from my cache. I'll up them if they go offline.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
if this was shot at f5.6 perhaps that girl would be crying buckets at the stuff she'd be seeing on her face by now. Like some said, too dang sharp... personally I'd soften it up a bit (but this is a case of representing the camera's capabilities so, the more SOOC the better)
I would hope she is thinking "this is me, and if you don't like it, that is your problem not mine!"
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QuoteOriginally posted by jaad75 Quote
They look pretty oversharpened to my eyes. Just a matter of personal taste.
Believe it or not, those photos were only slightly sharpened (w/ wavelet sharpening in gimp).
The unsharpened photos really are fairly close. Studio shots are generally sharper than shots w/ narrow DOF...

But I've also seen shots from a friend's D800E/24-70 combo at f/2.8 and they were ridiculously sharp.

So it's subjective depending on what you're comparing against...
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I don't see anything to get worried over. I would definitely see what photos look like when "real" photographers start using it in practice. Doubtful there will be noise in most situations, but certainly if you need a camera to take photos of night time skies, the K5 or K5 II would be cheaper options that will do at least as well.
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Nice review, I love the fact that the response time is (much?) faster then before. The output of the girl-shot looks promising, thanks for sharing.

Too bad this hands-on lacks a few important things for me. FPS is high and buffer must be increased to hold the same number of files as before.
I guess that`s for someone else to test but I`m very anxious to know how fast is the buffer cleared, is the camera still responsive while clearing the buffer, how much did the AFc tracking improved and to what FPS will the camera drop when the buffer is full?
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Pretty much every camera ever made gets crapped on for the advanced manufacturer pics. Look at all the people that complained about Fuji's sample pics for their APS x-series. People declared that the pics were so bad that they would damage the company, but meanwhile, they had something like 150 million in revenue in the release cycle of the X100 alone.
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