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10-08-2013, 12:35 PM   #1
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For those not pre-ordering... when will you buy?

A lot of people are pre-ordering their K-3 units. For as much as I would love to have a K-3, I'm going to wait.

I just got my K-30 in June and my shutter count is only 5.8k. The K-30 is still a better camera than I am a photographer and I don't feel like I have reached enough of the camera's limits yet. So far I have bumped into high ISO noise for indoor photography and bad rendering of reds. The screw-driven auto-focus feels like an elastic limit getting stiffer.

$1300 is probably a reasonable price for all the technology inside the K-3 but that's a steep hill for me and my wallet to climb right now, especially with a K-30 already in my hands. Maybe when it falls below $900, like the K5-II is today, I would find it easier to upgrade.

I would still like to see a sensor comparison study or a studio shot comparison like on DP Review before I upgrade.

If I had an older generation model with some "character marks" then I would be quicker to upgrade.

How about you? Are you watching from the sidelines too?

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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
How about you? Are you watching from the sidelines too?
I think many people have waited long enough. Including me.
Like "pre-ordering" many of us have been "pre-waiting".

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The long-awaited K-3 sounds like a great camera! Even though I'm not quite so sure of the sensor, having compared the Nikon 7100 to the Pentax K-5IIs on Dpreview. But great innovation nevertheless. Kudos to Ricoh. But when will I buy one? Probably never. I already have a K-x, a K20D and a K-5 and I feel today pretty little interest in the APS-C format. If I want to go small, I'll use my E-M5 or other m43 cameras and if I end up wanting to get a better high ISO and wide angle, I'll buy a FF ... by Nikon.



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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
A lot of people are pre-ordering their K-3 units. For as much as I would love to have a K-3, I'm going to wait.

I just got my K-30 in June and my shutter count is only 5.8k. The K-30 is still a better camera than I am a photographer and I don't feel like I have reached enough of the camera's limits yet. So far I have bumped into high ISO noise for indoor photography and bad rendering of reds. The screw-driven auto-focus feels like an elastic limit getting stiffer.

$1300 is probably a reasonable price for all the technology inside the K-3 but that's a steep hill for me and my wallet to climb right now, especially with a K-30 already in my hands. Maybe when it falls below $900, like the K5-II is today, I would find it easier to upgrade.

I would still like to see a sensor comparison study or a studio shot comparison like on DP Review before I upgrade.

If I had an older generation model with some "character marks" then I would be quicker to upgrade.

How about you? Are you watching from the sidelines too?
We'll be sure to do a detailed K-5 IIs vs K-3 comparison in our review. Pentax should be sending us a review unit very shortly, so we may have the review up before the camera hits the shelves.

You can expect the K-3 to do a bit better than the K-5 IQ-wise, but it's not going to be as big of a jump as the K-5 was compared to the K-7. However, as far as features go, the difference is much bigger.

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As usual, I will wait for full reviews ... hands-on from real users, and decide once all of the little annoyances of the new product have been ironed out.

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I'm going to wait. Most first generation gadgets have some minor issues that can't be fixed by firmware updates. I'm going to wait till they iron out initial kinks and polish it a little. So I'm looking at sometime early next year.
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I will want till the price is under 1250 CHF. I think I ll have to wait about 2-3 months (or more). Anyway my k7 works like it was her first day and I have time, I waited so long that these 2-3 months are not important.

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When the reviews and the comments from users clearly indicate the AF system has improved a LOT over the K-7/K-5, especially with moving subjects. Then, yes, I'll commit to a K-3.

But for now, my K-5 is more than okay.

Its DR and high ISO image quality (up to ISO 6400) do meet my requirements (something my K-7 couldn't), and the 16 Mpix resolution is more than I need. So why drop 1400-1500 Canadian dollars on a camera that will most likely have the same DR and high ISO image quality (roughly) and produce bigger files (50% more HDD space required) than my K-5 if the AF is disappointing?

I don't want to buy a brand new K-3 and discover its AF system has 16 more AF points but is still just as subpar vs. competition as with the K-5. So I'll wait for the reviews to come in, and if they say the K-3 can track a moving subject as well as a D7100 or EOS 70D can, then I'll make the move. And with luck, the price of the K-3 will have dropped by 200 dollars in the meanwhile.
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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
How about you? Are you watching from the sidelines too?
For the time being, I'm watching. But I have to admit that the K3 is very tempting...especially with the video upgrades and the switchable AA filter. I bought a K01 as a stop-gap measure last year until I decide upon my next DSLR. I'd like to see what else is coming down the pike.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonakG Quote
I'm going to wait. Most first generation gadgets have some minor issues that can't be fixed by firmware updates. I'm going to wait till they iron out initial kinks and polish it a little. So I'm looking at sometime early next year.
That's the only issue that gave me a moment's pause before I ordered, and I usually have the same policy. So I realize that we early adopters are taking a bit of a risk, but,

1.) Ricoh has taken quite a while to bring this body to market. I think that they know how important it is in terms of getting the Pentax brand where they want it, market-wise, and I get the sense that maybe they've been a little more careful to work out the bugs before the introduction. That may be wishful thinking on my part. Time will tell.

2.) This body makes so many technological leaps over previous bodies that I'm more willing to take a chance. Plus, I kinda feel like I'm putting my money where my mouth is as a loyal Pentaxian.

3.) I just really want it asap!
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I could be wrong, but I don't think we're going to see the kind of precipitous price drops on this body that we've seen in the past. This body was brought out at a very reasonable starting price and if the reviews are as good as we suspect they might be, the demand should be pretty good for a while. Of course it will drop some over time, I just don't think it'll be as quick as we're used to.
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QuoteOriginally posted by DogLover Quote
I could be wrong, but I don't think we're going to see the kind of precipitous price drops on this body that we've seen in the past. This body was brought out at a very reasonable starting price and if the reviews are as good as we suspect they might be, the demand should be pretty good for a while. Of course it will drop some over time, I just don't think it'll be as quick as we're used to.
Really all depends on demand.
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I might change my mind after some reviews come out and I see some full-res images from the K-3, but for the foreseeable future I'm probably sticking with my K-5 IIs and two K-01 bodies (and the K-7 which is largely collecting dust).

The reason I purchased a K-5IIs rather than waiting for the K-3 to show up is that I saw too many real-world side-by-side image comparisons between the K-5 IIs, the D7100 (another 24mp APS-C camera like the K-3) and images samples from the D600, D800, and 5D mkIII. To my eyes the K-5 IIs holds its own against all those cameras with higher-resolution sensors (meaning you cannot see a "clear" or "oh my God" difference in the images even when you pixel peep) except in two points:

-- Images from full-frame DSLRs have shallower DOF in some shots (a nice advantage if you want the shallowest DOF possible).
-- Images from the full-frame DSLRs have cleaner detail at high ISOs above 800 or 1600 (varied by sensor)

Granted, the K-3 has other significant advantages over the K-5/K-5 II/K-5 IIs beyond just the image sensor, but for me the image sensor (technically the image quality from the image sensor) is the biggest reason to switch camera bodies.

The reason I'm not immediately running out to buy the K-3 is that we're getting closer and closer to the point where the lens has a bigger impact on how much detail is captured than the sensor. Sure, higher resolution sensors give you a bigger file that you can crop more, but if the combination of the sensor and the lens isn't actually resolving more detail then all you get with a higher resolution sensor is a bigger file with the same image details.

Again, a full-frame sensor will give you the benefit of a full-frame perspective instead of a cropped view, better high ISO and shallower DOF ... but if you judge image quality in each new generation of camera by how much more detail is captured we're starting to get less impressive returns with each generation.



Unless the real-world images from the K-3 really surprise me I'll save my money and put better lenses on my K-5 IIs.
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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
A lot of people are pre-ordering their K-3 units. For as much as I would love to have a K-3, I'm going to wait.

I just got my K-30 in June and my shutter count is only 5.8k. The K-30 is still a better camera than I am a photographer and I don't feel like I have reached enough of the camera's limits yet. So far I have bumped into high ISO noise for indoor photography and bad rendering of reds. The screw-driven auto-focus feels like an elastic limit getting stiffer.

$1300 is probably a reasonable price for all the technology inside the K-3 but that's a steep hill for me and my wallet to climb right now, especially with a K-30 already in my hands. Maybe when it falls below $900, like the K5-II is today, I would find it easier to upgrade.

I would still like to see a sensor comparison study or a studio shot comparison like on DP Review before I upgrade.

If I had an older generation model with some "character marks" then I would be quicker to upgrade.

How about you? Are you watching from the sidelines too?
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