K3 Sensor - It's SONY - PF is wacked out ;-)

solar1 · 10-09-2013, 02:14 PM - **1 Like**

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Re: Pentax K-3's Sensor- a question
In reply to Chris Mak, 6 min ago
So my friends,in this second i have a very nice phototour with Pentax,the sensor in the Pentax K-3 is still,a new Sony Sensor!

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Edit: Re: Pentax K-3's Sensor- a question: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

You read it here first

Last edited by solar1; 10-09-2013 at 02:44 PM. Reason: add link

solar1 · 10-09-2013, 02:25 PM

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Re: K-3 sample, noise at ISO100 and stuck pixels...
In reply to miles green, 10 hours ago
miles green wrote:

Just going by this from the other forum:

"The sensor in the K-3 is extremely likely to be the same Toshiba chip found in the Nikon D7100 and D5200, as all three sensors have a total resolution of 24.71 megapixels. As reviews of the latter two cameras have shown, the new 24-megapixel sensor is capable of outperforming the K-5/D7000's old 16-megapixel chip in all areas, albeit to a small extent."

I read somewhere that this was confirmed. Of course, different hardware behind the sensor could result in the small differences in final resolution, as well as in small differences in image quality and not-so-small differences in performance.

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twitch · 10-09-2013, 02:30 PM

In 2 youtube video previews ("What digital camera" and another one I can't remember) I saw last night the sensor in the K-3 was referred to as a Sony sensor.

jimr-pdx · 10-09-2013, 02:38 PM - **2 Likes**

I know this is a big deal to many here, but my K-5 Classic has a few years left before I need to know this. I will find the 'final answer' interesting, but I'm not worried which brand is on the sensor as I'm confident that Pentax will make it work better than others. And whichever sensor is in the K-3 we cannot change it, so I'll trust Ricoh to pick the best mix of hi quality and value.

Deedee · 10-09-2013, 02:40 PM

Sony sensor with 25 cross type hmmm That does not sound right. But then the grouping - The grouping looks almost like Sony. Well someone who knows more can share.

Originally posted by solar1

Toshiba chip found in the Nikon D7100 and D5200,

I second this. This sounds about right. Better than D7100 though for sure

Cannikin · 10-09-2013, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Deedee

Sony sensor with 25 cross type hmmm That does not sound right. But then the grouping - The grouping looks almost like Sony. Well someone who knows more can share.

The sensor has nothing to do with the primary (PDAF) autofocus system.

Adam · 10-09-2013, 02:45 PM

Regardless of who delivers the sensor (though it's been said on many sites that it's a Toshiba chip), you can expect the performance to be in the D7100/D5200 ballpark. It's the same generation of technology, after all.

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aleonx3 · 10-09-2013, 03:06 PM

I googled k-3 in youtube and watched a couple of videos (both from Europe, I think), both commentators said the K-3 is equipped with the 24 Megapixel Sony sensor. So, may be the K-3 will give better (or worse) results compared to D7100?

aleonx3 · 10-09-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by twitch

In 2 youtube video previews ("What digital camera" and another one I can't remember) I saw last night the sensor in the K-3 was referred to as a Sony sensor.

Sorry, twitch, I didn't read your post... I did the same last night and both says Sony sensor.

Uluru · 10-09-2013, 03:20 PM

Yes, it is a new generation Sony's sensor. Better than Toshiba's, better than one in A77 or wherever else.
It will also end up in new Nikon's hi-end DX body, new Sony's cameras, etc.
Also, is some new Ricoh / Pentax cameras, but let's keep quiet about it, for now.

Adam · 10-09-2013, 03:20 PM - **1 Like**

I'll see if I can get an official answer to put an end to all of the speculation

luxrising · 10-09-2013, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Yes, it is a new generation Sony's sensor. Better than Toshiba's, better than one in A77 or wherever else.
It will also end up in new Nikon's hi-end DX body, new Sony's cameras, etc.
Also, is some new Ricoh / Pentax cameras, but let's keep quiet about it, for now.

Uluru,
I've seen you hint at new models around the new year in a thread or two here. Can you share any more info at all? I'm on the fence regarding the K-3 and I'm very curious about the model that may come below it.
Thanks either way!
LR

**Ex Finn.** · 10-09-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Adam

(though it's been said on many sites that it's a Toshiba chip

Isn't that the PRIME III image processor. The sensor should be Sony or am I wrong here?
edit: never-mind, Fujitsu is the prime III chip maker.

twitch · 10-09-2013, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by aleonx3

Sorry, twitch, I didn't read your post... I did the same last night and both says Sony sensor.

No need to be sorry about watching videos on the K-3

I really hope it is a Sony sensor esp. if it's a new generation one. Some are assuming due to the sensor resolution specs that it's a Toshiba sensor. However others assumed the OMD-EM5 came with a Panasonic sensor for the same reason, until it was later confirmed it was a Sony one.

**monochrome** · 10-09-2013, 04:16 PM

Personally I would be astonished if Ricoh got first crack at a new Sony sensor - especially since Nikon co-develops sensors with Sony. I think it more likely Ricoh got the Toshiba sensor after the D7100 exclusive period expired.

10-09-2013, 02:14 PM - 1 Like	#1
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	K3 Sensor - It's SONY - PF is wacked out ;-) "asahi man Regular Member • Posts: 325 asahi man Regular Member \| Posts: 325 Private message Re: Pentax K-3's Sensor- a question In reply to Chris Mak, 6 min ago So my friends,in this second i have a very nice phototour with Pentax,the sensor in the Pentax K-3 is still,a new Sony Sensor! Best regards" Edit: Re: Pentax K-3's Sensor- a question: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review You read it here first Last edited by solar1; 10-09-2013 at 02:44 PM. Reason: add link

10-09-2013, 02:25 PM	#2
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565 Original Poster	Prelude to the above post: asahi man asahi man Regular Member • Posts: 325 Like? asahi man Regular Member \| Posts: 325 Private message Re: K-3 sample, noise at ISO100 and stuck pixels... In reply to miles green, 10 hours ago miles green wrote: Just going by this from the other forum: "The sensor in the K-3 is extremely likely to be the same Toshiba chip found in the Nikon D7100 and D5200, as all three sensors have a total resolution of 24.71 megapixels. As reviews of the latter two cameras have shown, the new 24-megapixel sensor is capable of outperforming the K-5/D7000's old 16-megapixel chip in all areas, albeit to a small extent." I read somewhere that this was confirmed. Of course, different hardware behind the sensor could result in the small differences in final resolution, as well as in small differences in image quality and not-so-small differences in performance. -- show signature -- asahiman: Today i have a longer meeting with Pentax,i will see what the new statement is

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10-09-2013, 02:30 PM	#3
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	In 2 youtube video previews ("What digital camera" and another one I can't remember) I saw last night the sensor in the K-3 was referred to as a Sony sensor.

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jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	I know this is a big deal to many here, but my K-5 Classic has a few years left before I need to know this. I will find the 'final answer' interesting, but I'm not worried which brand is on the sensor as I'm confident that Pentax will make it work better than others. And whichever sensor is in the K-3 we cannot change it, so I'll trust Ricoh to pick the best mix of hi quality and value.

10-09-2013, 02:40 PM	#5
Deedee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 307	Sony sensor with 25 cross type hmmm That does not sound right. But then the grouping - The grouping looks almost like Sony. Well someone who knows more can share. Originally posted by solar1 Toshiba chip found in the Nikon D7100 and D5200, I second this. This sounds about right. Better than D7100 though for sure

10-09-2013, 02:42 PM	#6
Cannikin Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SW Washington Posts: 833	Originally posted by Deedee Sony sensor with 25 cross type hmmm That does not sound right. But then the grouping - The grouping looks almost like Sony. Well someone who knows more can share. The sensor has nothing to do with the primary (PDAF) autofocus system.

10-09-2013, 02:45 PM	#7
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,597	Regardless of who delivers the sensor (though it's been said on many sites that it's a Toshiba chip), you can expect the performance to be in the D7100/D5200 ballpark. It's the same generation of technology, after all. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

10-09-2013, 03:06 PM	#8
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	I googled k-3 in youtube and watched a couple of videos (both from Europe, I think), both commentators said the K-3 is equipped with the 24 Megapixel Sony sensor. So, may be the K-3 will give better (or worse) results compared to D7100?

10-09-2013, 03:08 PM	#9
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	Originally posted by twitch In 2 youtube video previews ("What digital camera" and another one I can't remember) I saw last night the sensor in the K-3 was referred to as a Sony sensor. Sorry, twitch, I didn't read your post... I did the same last night and both says Sony sensor.

10-09-2013, 03:20 PM	#10
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Yes, it is a new generation Sony's sensor. Better than Toshiba's, better than one in A77 or wherever else. It will also end up in new Nikon's hi-end DX body, new Sony's cameras, etc. Also, is some new Ricoh / Pentax cameras, but let's keep quiet about it, for now.

10-09-2013, 04:01 PM	#12
luxrising Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 31	Originally posted by Uluru Yes, it is a new generation Sony's sensor. Better than Toshiba's, better than one in A77 or wherever else. It will also end up in new Nikon's hi-end DX body, new Sony's cameras, etc. Also, is some new Ricoh / Pentax cameras, but let's keep quiet about it, for now. Uluru, I've seen you hint at new models around the new year in a thread or two here. Can you share any more info at all? I'm on the fence regarding the K-3 and I'm very curious about the model that may come below it. Thanks either way! LR

10-09-2013, 04:08 PM	#13
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Adam (though it's been said on many sites that it's a Toshiba chip Isn't that the PRIME III image processor. The sensor should be Sony or am I wrong here? edit: never-mind, Fujitsu is the prime III chip maker.

10-09-2013, 04:11 PM	#14
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by aleonx3 Sorry, twitch, I didn't read your post... I did the same last night and both says Sony sensor. No need to be sorry about watching videos on the K-3 I really hope it is a Sony sensor esp. if it's a new generation one. Some are assuming due to the sensor resolution specs that it's a Toshiba sensor. However others assumed the OMD-EM5 came with a Panasonic sensor for the same reason, until it was later confirmed it was a Sony one.

10-09-2013, 04:16 PM	#15
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Personally I would be astonished if Ricoh got first crack at a new Sony sensor - especially since Nikon co-develops sensors with Sony. I think it more likely Ricoh got the Toshiba sensor after the D7100 exclusive period expired.