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03-28-2017, 11:52 PM   #34696
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QuoteOriginally posted by pjv Quote
I just found this for you " pedal pushers." Start saving your pennies !!


Is that the solution Bert was looking for?


Not clear where the stowage space for his lunch is.


And please, no 'pushers' around here.

03-28-2017, 11:58 PM   #34697
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QuoteOriginally posted by tim60 Quote
Not clear where the stowage space for his lunch is.
I think if you own a bike like this Tim, your butler is following you in the chauffer driven limousine with everything you need !!
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I always thought they could place endless rows of solar panels in the Outback
Oh it will happen! But;

1. the outback is a long way from the consumers.
2. it can be very dusty out there, so don't expect too much efficiency
3. they could set up an automatic washing system
a/ if they had water
b/ if they could produce enough energy to drive the washing system.
4. and more stuff, but you are a mod and would ban me for being political.
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I'm not usually up at 2am.....weather alarm went off and blasted out a tornado warning. Heavy wind and rain.....looks like it is moving on fast. I think I'll go back to bed, not much I can do anyhow. Hood-Somervell Radar | WFAA.com

It's that time of year here, there will be a lot of these in the next two months.

While I'm here, let's chip in and get that Bugatti bike for Bert. I will donate my $5. and if we all do the same we can get it for him a little at a time. He might be too old to ride it by the time we get it paid for?

Regards! Nighty night!

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I just found this for you " pedal pushers." Start saving your pennies !!
The real sad thing is that it's not UCI legal.
03-29-2017, 01:54 AM   #34701
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it's not UCI legal.
Please explain.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pjv Quote
Please explain.
The minimum mass for a UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale) road race legal bicycle is 6.8kg. They're talking about lowering that limit, but have not yet done so. The lightest bike that I'm aware of is the AX-Lightness VIAL evo ULTRA which pulls the scales at 4.4kg. And, that costs about $15,000.

The problem therefore is that these ultra light bikes cannot be used in any UCI event and, subsequently are excluded at many club races which, in turn, use the UCI rules as a basis for their club rules. Some road bikes are slightly below the limit and they fix the problem by using heavier components to get over the 6.8kg (15lbs) limit.

Then, there's also rules for the bicycle geometry. It could be argued that the single chain stay / seat stay asymmetric design seen on the Bugatti bike may not comply either.

So, sadly, these technological masterpieces can be used on the road, but not in (most) races and for the sort of money, that makes them a very expensive hobby use bicycle.

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QuoteOriginally posted by MarkJerling Quote
The minimum mass for a UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale) road race legal bicycle is 6.8kg. They're talking about lowering that limit, but have not yet done so. The lightest bike that I'm aware of is the AX-Lightness VIAL evo ULTRA which pulls the scales at 4.4kg. And, that costs about $15,000.

The problem therefore is that these ultra light bikes cannot be used in any UCI event and, subsequently are excluded at many club races which, in turn, use the UCI rules as a basis for their club rules. Some road bikes are slightly below the limit and they fix the problem by using heavier components to get over the 6.8kg (15lbs) limit.

Then, there's also rules for the bicycle geometry. It could be argued that the single chain stay / seat stay asymmetric design seen on the Bugatti bike may not comply either.

So, sadly, these technological masterpieces can be used on the road, but not in (most) races and for the sort of money, that makes them a very expensive hobby use bicycle.
Gotta love the forums. 10 minutes ago I knew none of this. Now I do. Much appreciated Mr. Jerling.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pjv Quote
10 minutes ago I knew none of this. Now I do. Much appreciated Mr. Jerling.
+1

although now that I know, what use is that knowledge to me?
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QuoteOriginally posted by pjv Quote
Gotta love the forums. 10 minutes ago I knew none of this. Now I do. Much appreciated Mr. Jerling.
The problem is that most of the stuff I know lots about is pretty much useless information for most!
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+1

although now that I know, what use is that knowledge to me?
QuoteOriginally posted by MarkJerling Quote
The problem is that most of the stuff I know lots about is pretty much useless information for most!
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QuoteOriginally posted by MarkJerling Quote
The problem is that most of the stuff I know lots about is pretty much useless information for most!
Here's an example:
The centre bumper bolt head on a 1928 Model A Ford is round but on the 1929 Model A it's oval. And, no matter the colour of the car - the splash tray between the grille and the front bumper of a 1957 Ford is always silver.
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The problem is that most of the stuff I know lots about is pretty much useless information for most!
I think the word " useless " is being much too hard on yourself Mr.J. Now, SPECIALISED is much more to the point. I can see though, your info about the 1928 and 29 bumper bolts might be hard to work into a conversation.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pjv Quote
I think if you own a bike like this Tim, your butler is following you in the chauffer driven limousine with everything you need !!
Very English, that is.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rod_grant Quote
Oh it will happen! But;

1. the outback is a long way from the consumers.
2. it can be very dusty out there, so don't expect too much efficiency
3. they could set up an automatic washing system
a/ if they had water
b/ if they could produce enough energy to drive the washing system.
4. and more stuff, but you are a mod and would ban me for being political.
Never you mind about that. P here only seems to mean American P.

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