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06-03-2017, 08:06 PM - 1 Like   #36931
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Mrs Tim would tell me that if they did not pay me for the drawings it was still not worthwhile keeping them!
In our trade, it's long accepted standard practice to keep records for a minimum of 15 years. But I go the extreme. I have kept a record of every job, right back to my very first house design in 1985.

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Plugged barrels, I'm safe.
Reach for the sky pardner.

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Woke up today and heard news of another event in London. Very sad.
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there is a story that NASA wanted a writing instrument for its astronauts
they decided on the fisher space pen
the Russians began a search for a writing instrument for their cosmonauts
they chose a #2 pencil
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They (NASA) supposedly put out a $100,000.00 grant for the research into that.
I'm guessing the pencil idea cost the Russian taxpayers a bit less.
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NASA never spent a dime for the development of the space pen, It was proposed to them after Fisher invented it. NASA paid 3000$ for 400 units and the Soviet ordered 100 units + 400 refill soon after.
Indeed.

And as this article from Scientific American says:
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Pencils may not have been the best choice anyway. The tips flaked and broke off, drifting in microgravity where they could potentially harm an astronaut or equipment. And pencils are flammable--a quality NASA wanted to avoid in onboard objects after the Apollo 1 fire.
Too bad, really, for the myth is a good one to pull up whenever people overcomplificate things. Yes, I really think that should be a word.

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Woke up today and heard news of another event in London. Very sad.
Yes. Depressing.
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...but I still believe nobody can as well as the Brits...

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QuoteOriginally posted by MarkJerling Quote
In our trade, it's long accepted standard practice to keep records for a minimum of 15 years. But I go the extreme. I have kept a record of every job, right back to my very first house design in 1985.
in ours it was nothing gets thrown away

we had documents from the 1900s, fiche from the 50s forward and digital records beginning in the late 80s

then the boutique techie capitalists began acquiring companies they knew nothing about

we had the only complete set of practices between Chicago and los angeles...radio, fiber, copper,...inside plant, outside plant...motor vehicles, hand tools, power tools..testing protocols...you get it

a fellow who was afraid of being "surplus" read a memo and binned a hundred years of documentation to protect a job he lost because he binned a hundred years of documentation

in remote locations we had equipment that had been plugging along since the 30s
it was soon upgraded to very expensive state of the art tech because the methods to maintain it had been disappeared

I had several crates of designs, notes, practices, etc. that I had acquired over thirty years
I kept them at home after retirement
about five years ago I got the last question about "how do I do this?"
a year after that I binned those crates

it was a lot like when our last child moved out
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Woke up today and heard news of another event in London. Very sad.
It is a very troubled world. I read where as many as 15,000 children under age 5 die every day from starvation/related causes. Then we have those that take delight in maiming and murdering. I try to imagine if we all worked together what we could do in this world. Hasn't ever happened. Answers? Not here, I have none.

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Makes today a heavy day.


I hope that through my life I can make at least someone's life a bit better.
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It is a very troubled world. I read where as many as 15,000 children under age 5 die every day from starvation/related causes.
And all day long they hammer us with TV commercials narrated and hosted by washed up actors and actresses who drone along in a sad way about how "just fifty cents a day will make everything perfect".

Sure.

Man has survived a very long time by similar strategies to other creatures.

Survival of the fittest.
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I hope that through my life I can make at least someone's life a bit better.
Well you make our lives better by being a fellow Pentaxian.

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Yep, one of those days where it just doesn't feel right to be kidding around on here.
Take care everyone.
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Let's have a lament so not to forget all the innocent lives taken in terrorist attacks.

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Let's have a lament so not to forget all the innocent lives taken in terrorist attacks.
Bert, I gave you a like for that...but I do confess, I didn't listen to it.

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Yep, one of those days where it just doesn't feel right to be kidding around on here.
Take care everyone.
Agree, but we do go on......we will recover as will those most affected. It is why we have civilization...we keep recovering and moving forward, despite all obstacles.

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Bert, I gave you a like for that...but I do confess, I didn't listen to it.
Me too.............................but we love you Bert.
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