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06-17-2017, 10:07 AM - 1 Like   #37411
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I guess it's just the idea that this speech thing, that we care so much about, and that some even hold up as the defining characteristic in our human species, other species really don't even care about, not because they can't develop it, but because they don't find it particularly important or worthwhile.
I find that generally true with my animals. Raccoons talk the least, barely speaking except to ask for more of this or more of that. "More pizza" is what I hear from them most often.

Squirrels have a wide and fairly sophisticated vocabulary, but mostly just use it to curse and tell filthy jokes and stories.

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Which reminds me of one of my favourite lines. One of the researchers doing research with animals and speech boards. " We have discovered that many animals are capable of complex speech, and that they just don't have much to say."

It always makes me laugh.
I have no idea why.

I guess it's just the idea that this speech thing, that we care so much about, and that some even hold up as the defining characteristic in our human species, other species really don't even care about, not because they can't develop it, but because they don't find it particularly important or worthwhile.

We assume speech makes us happier than them, but we don't know that. maybe it just makes us more neurotic.
These hummingbirds have developed complex speech.

Just listen to them.

They sound like the folks over in the News And Rumours section of the forum.


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We assume speech makes us happier than them, but we don't know that. maybe it just makes us more neurotic.
As Mark Twain is reputed to have said,
"Man is the Only Animal that blushes. Or needs to."
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Which reminds me of one of my favourite lines. One of the researchers doing research with animals and speech boards. " We have discovered that many animals are capable of complex speech, and that they just don't have much to say."

It always makes me laugh.
I have no idea why.

I guess it's just the idea that this speech thing, that we care so much about, and that some even hold up as the defining characteristic in our human species, other species really don't even care about, not because they can't develop it, but because they don't find it particularly important or worthwhile.

We assume speech makes us happier than them, but we don't know that. maybe it just makes us more neurotic.
most humans are incapable of communication without words
we seem to interpret language through an ego-based filter and fail to adequately comprehend the words we hear and see

I watched a doe warn her two fawns of our presence the other morning
she stopped them from coming further, then backed them up into a cedar break and apparently told them to STAY!
if I hadn't heard them retreat I would not have known what the dip of her nose and the flick of the ears meant

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My dad always told me we had to be quiet when we were fishing or the fish wouldn't bite.
I didn't catch on until I was older, then later I used that line on my own kids.
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QuoteOriginally posted by robtcorl Quote
My dad always told me we had to be quiet when we were fishing or the fish wouldn't bite.
I didn't catch on until I was older, then later I used that line on my own kids.
unless you are incredibly noisy I don't think the fish care
however I did

my line was more...be quiet or i'll bite

I hunt and fish alone just for the lack of distractions...as long as you don't count skunks at sunrise
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We assume speech makes us happier than them, but we don't know that. maybe it just makes us more neurotic.
I think I'm probably happier in the end when I don't open my mouth...

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I think everyone is happier in the end when I don't open my mouth and blow on my pipes.
Fixed it for you.
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I think I'm probably happier in the end when I don't open my mouth...
Especially to stick a chanter into it.
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Fixed it for you.
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Especially to stick a chanter into it.
Rough crowd.
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I can translate this but most of it is not safe for work. Or here in particular where so many Mods roam.

It is mostly about a big fat yellow cat that lurks in the neighborhood. Fat and dumb, and too lazy to catch a crafty squirrel but always spewing out rancid cat threats.Then a dog next door gets involved and tells how he once caught and ate a young squirrel and might do it again if he gets a chance. They got into a heated argument and the squirrel called the dog's mom a real bitch.......just pretty much typical squirrel ranting like I hear every day at my place.



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squirrel ranting
Great name for a band!
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Great name for a band!
Otis agreed, but also liked "Dog Bitch Howling". I kinda liked that one too......I think a lot like Otis, you know?

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