why I won't buy a k3 (Warning: Satire Thread)

**monochrome** · 12-31-2017, 09:37 PM

The dryer vent self-destructed. I think the cold / heat shock fractured the union.

4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists. With a socket wrench because a screwdriver won’t fit in there. Wearing a headlamp.

I should have just stuffed a rag in there and waited until next Sunday. Temp forecast is 40 deg.

Happy freaking New Year.

**aslyfox** · 12-31-2017, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

The dryer vent self-destructed. I think the cold / heat shock fractured the union.

4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists. With a socket wrench because a screwdriver won’t fit in there. Wearing a headlamp.

I should have just stuffed a rag in there and waited until next Sunday. Temp forecast is 40 deg.

Happy freaking New Year.

oops

sorry to hear about your misadventure

robtcorl · 12-31-2017, 09:56 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists

On the plus side, bet you found a bunch of missing socks.

Racer X 69 · 12-31-2017, 10:30 PM

Mrs. Racer went to bed at 9pm.

Who goes to bed at 9pm on New Years Eve?

**rod_grant** · 12-31-2017, 10:31 PM - **1 Like**

Happy New Year all.
And for Mark, Happy "Day after New Years Day" (Those Kiwis know how to give a good name to a holiday, eh?)

**rod_grant** · 12-31-2017, 10:36 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Who goes to bed at 9pm on New Years Eve?

Yeah! I stayed up until at least 11. Just got to sleep and was woken by the fireworks!
I can usually see most of the fireworks from front veranda, (but not in my PJs!!)

**aslyfox** · 12-31-2017, 11:01 PM

hmmm

that was good

happy new year

**TedH42** · 01-01-2018, 12:13 AM

Happy New Year. Hmm, sounds like a small war outside right now.

They should run out of firecrackers soon.

tim60 · 01-01-2018, 12:15 AM

Someone got the wrong idea about NYE fireworks: Liverpool Echo Arena car park fire destroys 1,400 vehicles - BBC News

1400 cars.

tim60 · 01-01-2018, 12:21 AM

Since yesterday afternoon I have been getting a lot of 'cant find this page' messages on the forums, when clicking on links in the forums. Anyone else been getting the same?

I am not getting them with other websites.

**RichardS** · 01-01-2018, 12:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gaweidert

The real problem is that people are addicted to the cigarettes and the governments are addicted to tax revenues. So they take pseudo steps that make them appear to concerned about the side effects but not enough to solve the problem. An interesting study in the US showed that if everyone in the US that smokes quit. government expenses would actually go up. People would live longer and stand a good chance of getting other kinds of cancers. Social security expenditures would go up too for the same reason.

It was a long time ago and I can't remember every detail, but this is about right. Way back in the last millenium (about the 1960s), there was no link between cigarette smoking and cancer in France. It seemed that, if you smoked Gauloises or Disque Bleu, you could not get cancer. After all the studies trying to link cancer with cigarette smoking, the government decreed that there was no link in France.

The government owned the cigarette factories.

Eh.

Racer X 69 · 01-01-2018, 01:01 AM - **1 Like**

Midnight, PST.

Happy New Year everyone!

**RichardS** · 01-01-2018, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

So close to -30C.
Back when growing up and having to ski to school, I would have chosen a soft wax for the middle of the ski for traction when kicking back.

Now, I would not leave the house!

I don't blame you. Now that I'm retired and I don't have to leave the house every day, I find that +15C is my cut-off temperature. If it's below +15C, then I have to have a very good reason for leaving the house.

tim60 · 01-01-2018, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by RichardS

It was a long time ago and I can't remember every detail, but this is about right. Way back in the last millenium (about the 1960s), there was no link between cigarette smoking and cancer in France. It seemed that, if you smoked Gauloises or Disque Bleu, you could not get cancer. After all the studies trying to link cancer with cigarette smoking, the government decreed that there was no link in France.

The government owned the cigarette factories.

Eh.

Sorry for talking about photography, but I recall seeing a photo of one of the early Tour de France races showing the cyclists, themselves, smoking whilst racing. Smoking was actually believed to be good for one's performance. Would it have been banned as a performance enhancing drug if the current sensitivities were around over that issue? Apparently during WWII death by heart attack decreased at the same time as there was a decrease in the availability of tobacco to the general public.

The problem of proving these things:

There is a lot of correlational evidence.
There is evidence of the presence of various carcinogens in the smoke.
But can you prove that smoking CAUSED the cancer and not something else, or that the specific combination of carcinogens in smoke causes cancer?

A large part of that depends on what one considers, or is willing to accept as, proof of cause.

Philosophy, research methods and law collide creating a loud report.

tim60 · 01-01-2018, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by RichardS

I don't blame you. Now that I'm retired and I don't have to leave the house every day, I find that +15C is my cut-off temperature. If it's below +15C, then I have to have a very good reason for leaving the house.

Over here that would make you a shut-in.

But more seriously, your sensation on leaving the house would be more like if you applied a rule of about 8C here you would feel about the same as at 15C over there. When I moved I found this difference quite stunning.

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12-31-2017, 09:37 PM	#43516
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	The dryer vent self-destructed. I think the cold / heat shock fractured the union. 4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists. With a socket wrench because a screwdriver won’t fit in there. Wearing a headlamp. I should have just stuffed a rag in there and waited until next Sunday. Temp forecast is 40 deg. Happy freaking New Year.

12-31-2017, 09:45 PM	#43517
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by monochrome The dryer vent self-destructed. I think the cold / heat shock fractured the union. 4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists. With a socket wrench because a screwdriver won’t fit in there. Wearing a headlamp. I should have just stuffed a rag in there and waited until next Sunday. Temp forecast is 40 deg. Happy freaking New Year. oops sorry to hear about your misadventure

12-31-2017, 09:56 PM - 1 Like	#43518
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Originally posted by monochrome 4” hole in the wall, -1 temp and after a trip to Lowe’s I’m moving appliances, cutting 4” vent tube and tightening band clamps at ceiling height. Between the joists On the plus side, bet you found a bunch of missing socks.

12-31-2017, 10:30 PM	#43519
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,073	Mrs. Racer went to bed at 9pm. Who goes to bed at 9pm on New Years Eve?

12-31-2017, 10:31 PM - 1 Like	#43520
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	Happy New Year all. And for Mark, Happy "Day after New Years Day" (Those Kiwis know how to give a good name to a holiday, eh?)

12-31-2017, 10:36 PM - 1 Like	#43521
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Who goes to bed at 9pm on New Years Eve? Yeah! I stayed up until at least 11. Just got to sleep and was woken by the fireworks! I can usually see most of the fireworks from front veranda, (but not in my PJs!!)

12-31-2017, 11:01 PM	#43522
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	hmmm that was good happy new year

01-01-2018, 12:13 AM	#43523
TedH42 F/8 & Somewhere Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,412	Happy New Year. Hmm, sounds like a small war outside right now. They should run out of firecrackers soon.

01-01-2018, 12:15 AM	#43524
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Someone got the wrong idea about NYE fireworks: Liverpool Echo Arena car park fire destroys 1,400 vehicles - BBC News 1400 cars.

01-01-2018, 12:21 AM	#43525
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Since yesterday afternoon I have been getting a lot of 'cant find this page' messages on the forums, when clicking on links in the forums. Anyone else been getting the same? I am not getting them with other websites.

01-01-2018, 12:30 AM - 1 Like	#43526
RichardS Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nelson Bay, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,418	Originally posted by gaweidert The real problem is that people are addicted to the cigarettes and the governments are addicted to tax revenues. So they take pseudo steps that make them appear to concerned about the side effects but not enough to solve the problem. An interesting study in the US showed that if everyone in the US that smokes quit. government expenses would actually go up. People would live longer and stand a good chance of getting other kinds of cancers. Social security expenditures would go up too for the same reason. It was a long time ago and I can't remember every detail, but this is about right. Way back in the last millenium (about the 1960s), there was no link between cigarette smoking and cancer in France. It seemed that, if you smoked Gauloises or Disque Bleu, you could not get cancer. After all the studies trying to link cancer with cigarette smoking, the government decreed that there was no link in France. The government owned the cigarette factories. Eh.

01-01-2018, 01:01 AM - 1 Like	#43527
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,073	Midnight, PST. Happy New Year everyone!

01-01-2018, 01:38 AM	#43528
RichardS Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nelson Bay, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,418	Originally posted by Ex Finn. So close to -30C. Back when growing up and having to ski to school, I would have chosen a soft wax for the middle of the ski for traction when kicking back. Now, I would not leave the house! I don't blame you. Now that I'm retired and I don't have to leave the house every day, I find that +15C is my cut-off temperature. If it's below +15C, then I have to have a very good reason for leaving the house.

01-01-2018, 02:46 AM	#43529
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Originally posted by RichardS It was a long time ago and I can't remember every detail, but this is about right. Way back in the last millenium (about the 1960s), there was no link between cigarette smoking and cancer in France. It seemed that, if you smoked Gauloises or Disque Bleu, you could not get cancer. After all the studies trying to link cancer with cigarette smoking, the government decreed that there was no link in France. The government owned the cigarette factories. Eh. Sorry for talking about photography, but I recall seeing a photo of one of the early Tour de France races showing the cyclists, themselves, smoking whilst racing. Smoking was actually believed to be good for one's performance. Would it have been banned as a performance enhancing drug if the current sensitivities were around over that issue? Apparently during WWII death by heart attack decreased at the same time as there was a decrease in the availability of tobacco to the general public. The problem of proving these things: There is a lot of correlational evidence. There is evidence of the presence of various carcinogens in the smoke. But can you prove that smoking CAUSED the cancer and not something else, or that the specific combination of carcinogens in smoke causes cancer? A large part of that depends on what one considers, or is willing to accept as, proof of cause. Philosophy, research methods and law collide creating a loud report.

01-01-2018, 02:50 AM	#43530
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,756	Originally posted by RichardS I don't blame you. Now that I'm retired and I don't have to leave the house every day, I find that +15C is my cut-off temperature. If it's below +15C, then I have to have a very good reason for leaving the house. Over here that would make you a shut-in. But more seriously, your sensation on leaving the house would be more like if you applied a rule of about 8C here you would feel about the same as at 15C over there. When I moved I found this difference quite stunning.