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**aslyfox** · 07-10-2018, 10:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by CharLac

Who say's you can't learn something new at 57 years of age! Thanks Allen

I want my crust on my bread, not my bacon

" Another type of Canadian bacon is also known as peameal bacon. It is also made from the loin, but it is cured in a sweet pickle and it has a crust made from yellow cornmeal or peas "

**CharLac** · 07-10-2018, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by gaweidert

No because all the pixel peepers are having a heated debate as to whether or not the built in noise reduction totally destroys the image quality and turns the camera into a paperweight.. So the K1-II is either a bit of an upgrade, or a throwback to the days of 1 megapixel full frame cameras.

Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something

**CharLac** · 07-10-2018, 10:46 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

was there an eclipse I missed

You guys don't miss much eh? ;-)

**aslyfox** · 07-10-2018, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by CharLac

Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something

yes

you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread

get the pitch forks guys

or perhaps just a short ban ?

**savoche** · 07-10-2018, 11:00 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gaweidert

No because all the pixel peepers are having a heated debate as to whether or not the built in noise reduction totally destroys the image quality and turns the camera into a paperweight.. So the K1-II is either a bit of an upgrade, or a throwback to the days of 1 megapixel full frame cameras.

I know. It's pretty much useless. At least for all those millions who shoot red fine woven cloth at 12,800 ISO and need to reproduce it 12'x8'. And study it at close range. Next to an identical image taken with a K-1 Classic. Because then you might see better detail produced by the latter. Real or imagined, but you might see it.

As I said, utterly useless.

**savoche** · 07-10-2018, 11:04 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by CharLac

Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something

No, that's the thing. The accelerator chip works on the raw file. And when shooting high ISO there is - maybe - a slight loss of detail as a result of the noise reduction. At least in the reds. Maybe.

**CharLac** · 07-10-2018, 11:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

yes

you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread

get the pitch forks guys

or perhaps just a short ban ?

Sorry....bacon...and if you are going to brandish the pitchforks...why not put them to good use!

**gaweidert** · 07-10-2018, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by CharLac

Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something

It is actually processed in the RAW files too. It seems to kick in about ISO 640 or so.

**savoche** · 07-10-2018, 11:11 AM - **2 Likes**

Speaking of the Resident Nerd... Huh, we weren't? Anyway... It just struck me he must be really good at chasing girls (or boys of that's his thing, by all means). The point is, he will be very efficient chasing pretty much anyone with those pipes. Far, far away.

**CharLac** · 07-10-2018, 11:23 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gaweidert

It is actually processed in the RAW files too. It seems to kick in about ISO 640 or so.

Looks like the correction is quite extreme...

Image on left from a K1 and other from a K1ii

robtcorl · 07-10-2018, 11:43 AM - **1 Like**

I come back after my little nap and find GEAR TALK!
Can't leave you kids alone for one minute!

robtcorl · 07-10-2018, 12:03 PM - **3 Likes**

Watch worthy I promise:

Youtu.be

robtcorl · 07-10-2018, 12:13 PM

Guess everyone skedaddled.

robtcorl · 07-10-2018, 01:09 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by reh321

I'm not easily chased off once I decide to be here, but right now I need to do some yard work before my wife gets home.

Jean Poitiers · 07-10-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

yes

you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread

get the pitch forks guys

or perhaps just a short ban ?

"Ditto!" - Blazing Saddles

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07-10-2018, 10:44 AM - 1 Like	#51301
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by CharLac Who say's you can't learn something new at 57 years of age! Thanks Allen I want my crust on my bread, not my bacon " Another type of Canadian bacon is also known as peameal bacon. It is also made from the loin, but it is cured in a sweet pickle and it has a crust made from yellow cornmeal or peas "

07-10-2018, 10:45 AM	#51302
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by gaweidert No because all the pixel peepers are having a heated debate as to whether or not the built in noise reduction totally destroys the image quality and turns the camera into a paperweight.. So the K1-II is either a bit of an upgrade, or a throwback to the days of 1 megapixel full frame cameras. Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something

07-10-2018, 10:46 AM - 1 Like	#51303
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by Aslyfox was there an eclipse I missed You guys don't miss much eh? ;-)

07-10-2018, 10:47 AM	#51304
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by CharLac Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something yes you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread get the pitch forks guys or perhaps just a short ban ?

07-10-2018, 11:00 AM - 2 Likes	#51305
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,312	Originally posted by gaweidert No because all the pixel peepers are having a heated debate as to whether or not the built in noise reduction totally destroys the image quality and turns the camera into a paperweight.. So the K1-II is either a bit of an upgrade, or a throwback to the days of 1 megapixel full frame cameras. I know. It's pretty much useless. At least for all those millions who shoot red fine woven cloth at 12,800 ISO and need to reproduce it 12'x8'. And study it at close range. Next to an identical image taken with a K-1 Classic. Because then you might see better detail produced by the latter. Real or imagined, but you might see it. As I said, utterly useless.

07-10-2018, 11:04 AM - 2 Likes	#51306
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,312	Originally posted by CharLac Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something No, that's the thing. The accelerator chip works on the raw file. And when shooting high ISO there is - maybe - a slight loss of detail as a result of the noise reduction. At least in the reds. Maybe.

07-10-2018, 11:06 AM - 1 Like	#51307
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by Aslyfox yes you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread get the pitch forks guys or perhaps just a short ban ? Sorry....bacon...and if you are going to brandish the pitchforks...why not put them to good use!

07-10-2018, 11:10 AM	#51308
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,327	Originally posted by CharLac Not to get technical, but wouldn't that only affect the JPEG? The RAW shouldn't be affected by noise-reduction....or am I missing something It is actually processed in the RAW files too. It seems to kick in about ISO 640 or so.

07-10-2018, 11:11 AM - 2 Likes	#51309
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,312	Speaking of the Resident Nerd... Huh, we weren't? Anyway... It just struck me he must be really good at chasing girls (or boys of that's his thing, by all means). The point is, he will be very efficient chasing pretty much anyone with those pipes. Far, far away.

07-10-2018, 11:23 AM - 2 Likes	#51310
CharLac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ottawa Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,419	Originally posted by gaweidert It is actually processed in the RAW files too. It seems to kick in about ISO 640 or so. Looks like the correction is quite extreme... Image on left from a K1 and other from a K1ii

07-10-2018, 11:43 AM - 1 Like	#51311
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	I come back after my little nap and find GEAR TALK! Can't leave you kids alone for one minute!

07-10-2018, 12:13 PM	#51313
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Guess everyone skedaddled.

07-10-2018, 01:09 PM - 1 Like	#51314
robtcorl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,606	Originally posted by reh321 I'm not easily chased off once I decide to be here, but right now I need to do some yard work before my wife gets home.

07-10-2018, 01:33 PM	#51315
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Originally posted by Aslyfox yes you are talking technical photography stuff on this thread get the pitch forks guys or perhaps just a short ban ? "Ditto!" - Blazing Saddles

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