[savoche]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

I'm really sorry to hear that, Charlie. You have my deepfelt condolences. You guys take care of each other, ok.

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[robtcorl]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

Very sorry to hear that Charlie.
Condolences to you and your family.

[RoxnDox]

Sorry to hear that... Condolences from here too.

[gaweidert]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

So sorry to hear this. Condolences to you and your family.

[MarkJerling]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

Please accept my sincere condolences Charlie.

[gaweidert]

Well my wife needed some Irish Cream to make a cheesecake tart for a party she is going to tonight. So off to the liquor store to get some Choice was Bailey's at $32 a bottle of Brady's at $10 a bottle. I got the Brady's and was pleasantly surprised at how good it is. Made with all Irish components including single-malt Irish whiskey. She only needed a few ounces so I have offered to make sure none of it goes to waste. Actually very good stuff.

[MarkJerling]

Not those but several groups try to preserve every house etc to retain the "character " of a village and this drives me nuts. How many Victorian or Georgian derelicts do we need to preserve? These groups fight like crazy to preserve a house or the way it looks but will not spend a dime to help maintain it. Heck they even dictate what color paint you can use. The so called "historic districts" come with great expense and the people who fight to get the designations often do not even live in them.


I thought that diversity was a good thing. I have no problem building a modern looking home next to a Georgian style house. If you want to preserve examples of the architecture then move samples to museums like Hessenpark in Germany of Dearborn Village in Michigan.

Should London Tower be preserved? It was, after all, a place of unbridled power and oppression. Each pyramid for the aggrandizement of one man. The Colosseum where executions were spectator sports, gladiators fought to the death and animals were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands all for the entertainment value. No one really knows the history of Machu Picchu so no comments there. Besides too expensive to tear down.

I think you're simply trying to get a rise out of me.

There are many reasons why the preservation of old buildings results in nicer neighbourhoods than replacing with new. The neat thing is that no-one is forced to buy a heritage building or in a heritage neighbourhood. If you prefer, you can buy a modern cookiecutter McMansion in most any new subdivision and be surrounded with equally new McMansions.

Some examples of why preservation makes sense:

1. Most old buildings, provided they have not been left to deteriorate too far due to lack of maintenance, can be repaired fairly cost effectively. Once repaired, they will generally provide higher property values for their owners than an equivalent sized modern home. And, because they were originally built using simpler technology that new buildings, repairs can usually be undertaken by most any reasonably practical homeowner, without need to employ a specialist. As the home owner's own labour is free, that's most often the cheapest way for people to add value to their property.
2. Most old buildings are built from far higher quality materials than most new buildings.
3. A preserved neighbourhood will generally increase everyone's property values.
4. Old buildings often provide an insight into behaviours of the past. Victorian houses, for instance, followed design ideals which we now find peculiar but which, at the time, made sense for their way of life. Most of those old houses can, with minor changes, function very well as modern homes.
5. Old houses have better environmental credentials than new houses and need not be any less energy efficient than new homes, if renovated correctly.
6. Old building provide a "written" history of design styles and construction materials far better than any textbook can.
7. Our built environment is one of the key descriptors of our culture. Replace it all with modern and our history is gone.
8. Once it's been demolished, it's gone forever. It can't be replaced or reconstructed in future when keeping old buildings become fashionable again. What we lose now can never be replaced. The materials are in most cases not available or, if available, so expensive that only the ultra-rich would be able to afford to recreate a historic building correctly.
9. Preserving in place is far better than shifting the building to a Museum site. Buildings have an integral relationship with their original location and there's often archaeological finds to be made around old buildings. Once removed from it's original site, that rich history is gone.

[MarkJerling]

Well my wife needed some Irish Cream to make a cheesecake tart for a party she is going to tonight. So off to the liquor store to get some Choice was Bailey's at $32 a bottle of Brady's at $10 a bottle. I got the Brady's and was pleasantly surprised at how good it is. Made with all Irish components including single-malt Irish whiskey. She only needed a few ounces so I have offered to make sure none of it goes to waste. Actually very good stuff.

It makes sense to use the cheaper version in cooking. (As I told my wife when she needed whiskey for a recipe. Glenlivet is a bit of a waste in cooking.)

[Fries]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

My condolences Charlie. Just today I went to a memorial service for the wife of one of my nephews. She died in a traffic accident. I wish you and your loved ones the same sort of farewell she received; the blanket of overall sadness was lifted more than on one occasion by also celebrating here life in a very touching way with a hint of humor.

[dbs]

But it is on the wrong continent.

Hi Racer

If we do not exist therefore it is on the right continent...


Dave

[dbs]

Well awful news last night, one of my brothers passed away yesterday. He was battling a heart condition so it was not completely unexpected. Still in shock I expect.

Hi Charlie

Condolences to you and your family


Dave

[Racer X 69]

Hi Racer

If we do not exist therefore it is on the right continent...


Dave

Well ya got em there Dave.

[dbs]

Hi Racer

Your avatar

Are you on famous drivers baby photos now

Dave

[Ex Finn.]

Condolences sir.

[robtcorl]

Mrs Bob has been putting away Christmas decor for a couple days now, our son came after work for the outside stuff, and to help get our tree put away.
It's beginning to look a lot like not Christmas.
Oh, and Brooke has her window view to the backyard back, it was blocked by the tree.